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Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

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Jesse - Mar 24, 2012 4:06:15 pm PDT #18977 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Especially with making it omniscient, and not just Katniss's POV, I could definitely see a miniseries!


le nubian - Mar 24, 2012 4:32:08 pm PDT #18978 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

All,

what was the point of that scene in the film where Haymitch seems to be staring at a family or something? Did someone catch what the audience was supposed to get there?


Jesse - Mar 24, 2012 4:33:44 pm PDT #18979 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

When's that? There's a moment when they are getting together at the beginning of training where he notices Cato giving them the stinkeye.


Anne W. - Mar 24, 2012 4:37:21 pm PDT #18980 of 30000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

le nubian, I think it was because the family had given their little boy a toy sword in honor of the Hunger Games, and were smiling indulgently as the kid pretended to go after his sister.


Jesse - Mar 24, 2012 4:38:10 pm PDT #18981 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

OH! I forgot that entirely. I think it was just to show that everyone in the Capital is terrible or whatever.


Jesse - Mar 24, 2012 4:40:59 pm PDT #18982 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Or, more kindly, how everyone views the Games as entertainment.


le nubian - Mar 24, 2012 4:43:54 pm PDT #18983 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

thank you. I missed the significance of that entirely. I wasn't sure if that was supposed to be a flashback or what.

I appreciate your explanations.


§ ita § - Mar 24, 2012 5:20:42 pm PDT #18984 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

it felt like they just didn't care

Why do you say that? There were a lot of choices made to avoid showing direct dealing of more visceral violence on the kids, just the aftereffects. Why wouldn't this be another example?


§ ita § - Mar 24, 2012 6:28:30 pm PDT #18985 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Reading the page of differences between book and movie, it made me feel like the changes were really trivial, more than I did after having watched it, but I guess it's because they left out stuff like the shifted focus on certain characters (way more Seneca Crane this way--I was thinking they'd undersold his murder, but now I'm reminded it's much more in your face than in the books) and focussed on things that were easy to put in a table.

I did miss the Avox, though. I thought that really showed what sort of control by force the Capitol was exerting over the Districts. It's not like the movie makes it look like happy fun times, but a clear divide between the makes and the makes not was really driven home by that little subplot.

It kind of explains why the Districts are as numb as they are. I've seen some people asking why they don't fight back more, why all of them don't train their kids, not just Districts 1 and 2.

And I'm not sure how/if they could have worked it in with the way they had them react in the movie, but I did like that District 11 sent Kat bread. It was a big gesture from people who had little. But what happened in the movie was one of the most touching points for me anyway, so I'd just be asking for more, not instead of.

Okay, I really had to edit that page for grammar and spelling. How do people not do that?


Theodosia - Mar 24, 2012 7:09:21 pm PDT #18986 of 30000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

ita, my reaction to the disjointed fight scenes comes from sad experience dealing with tyro authors who don't bother to choreograph their own fight scenes. And who readily admit that they just don't know how to do it, but cry foul when you point out that then they should do a little research.

When you've got a reasonable budget so that you can put together a hit movie, you should be able to get good resources to put something presentable together, if you care.

OTOH, what we're seeing may be the result of a deliberate editign job by the studio after the fact, in which case I suppose I should be grateful the movie holds together as well as it does.