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DavidS - Mar 09, 2012 6:18:53 pm PST #18666 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
DavidS - Mar 09, 2012 6:21:35 pm PST #18667 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
ita, do you have a smoking in the tub provacateuse site yet?
§ ita § - Mar 09, 2012 6:21:59 pm PST #18668 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
But it was a story long before it was a movie.
And when I read the story, I took the queen's word for it. I wasn't surprised or challenged by the movie's interpretation of Snow White as a more real, warm, true beauty. I definitely thought we were supposed to like her face (and heart, of course) better, even in the text.
Frankenbuddha - Mar 09, 2012 6:24:36 pm PST #18669 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I never said everyone. I said a significant statistical sampling. I truly believe Charlize is considered more conventionally or popularly beautiful than Kristen. Your disagreeing doesn't change my position as stated in the quote you cite.
Doesn't all the pre-suppose that the mirror is talking about physical beauty?
§ ita § - Mar 09, 2012 6:32:37 pm PST #18670 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Doesn't all the pre-suppose that the mirror is talking about physical beauty?
Given that what we're told about beauty is physical characteristics I figure that's fair. It's the colour of hair, lips, and skin, not the quality of heart and spirit, is it?
We do learn that the evil queen is, well, evil, and Snow White is nice, but that's not the setup.
Frankenbuddha - Mar 09, 2012 6:36:32 pm PST #18671 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
It's the colour of hair, lips, and skin, not the quality of heart and spirit, is it?
Is it not "who's the fairest of them all"? If not okay. If so, open to a lot of interpretation.
P.M. Marc - Mar 09, 2012 6:45:12 pm PST #18672 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
That's too bad. I was hoping that it was good because Michael Chabon wrote the script.
Was he high at the time?
Is it not "who's the fairest of them all"? If not okay. If so, open to a lot of interpretation.
Considering the mirror at any point tells the queen it is her, I don't think there's a lot of interpretation for it to mean anything other than superficial looks, unless there's a really low fucking bar set for quality of character.
Frankenbuddha - Mar 09, 2012 6:54:30 pm PST #18673 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Considering the mirror at any point tells the queen it is here, I don't think there's a lot of interpretation for it to mean anything other than superficial looks, unless there's a really low fucking bar set for quality of character.
OK, had a hard time parsing this for a while, but I'm guessing that "here" was supposed to be "her", which makes a lot more sense. And point taken if so.
P.M. Marc - Mar 09, 2012 7:00:33 pm PST #18674 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Man, I don't even have the excuse of alcohol or a soft keyboard for that typo. I just... kept typing, and apparently, I type "here" more often than "her" and just went on autocomplete.
§ ita § - Mar 09, 2012 7:11:18 pm PST #18675 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Is it not "who's the fairest of them all"
Like PMM says, it's the mirror that's talking, but when Snow is wished for, she's wished for by feature ("how I wish that I had a daughter that had skin white as snow, lips red as blood, and hair black as ebony"). Not by character. The story seems to stick pretty clearly to vaunting the physical, at least at first. True character will out.