Superheroes punch each other and blow/rip shit up?
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Frankenbuddha - Mar 02, 2012 11:09:25 am PST #18557 of 30000
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Frankenbuddha - Mar 02, 2012 11:10:54 am PST #18558 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Admittedly that didn't work with the Hulk movies, but the plural aspect might help.
§ ita § - Mar 02, 2012 11:12:58 am PST #18559 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Superheroes punch each other and blow/rip shit up?
And how do you tell that apart from anything else, and why can't you just get that from the X-Men while you're there for the prejudice angst anyway? Why bother writing the story on them?
Tom Scola - Mar 02, 2012 11:13:11 am PST #18560 of 30000
hwæt
In my head, X-Men are Marvel's JLA
After the JLA comic became a success at DC, Stan Lee's boss ordered him to create a rip-off of it for Marvel. So he and Jack Kirby created the Fantastic Four.
Polter-Cow - Mar 02, 2012 11:13:33 am PST #18561 of 30000
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And how do you tell that apart from anything else, and why can't you just get that from the X-Men while you're there for the prejudice angst anyway? Why bother writing the story on them?
Maybe you hate mutants.
§ ita § - Mar 02, 2012 11:14:19 am PST #18562 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
So he and Jack Kirby created the Fantastic Four.
But do they have the profile? I'm not considering in-universe factors, nor even meta things like that. Just--this comic book company has a group of heroes named...what?
DebetEsse - Mar 02, 2012 11:14:20 am PST #18563 of 30000
Woe to the fucking wicked.
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Tom Scola - Mar 02, 2012 11:23:10 am PST #18564 of 30000
hwæt
It's a common trope going back at least a couple millennia, as in Jason and the Argonauts. If you have a bunch of popular heroes, why not put them in a story where they're together?
le nubian - Mar 02, 2012 11:27:42 am PST #18565 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
When I first saw the trailer for The Avengers some months ago, it was not at all what I was expecting. I don't know who I thought the crew was going to be but it wasn't that crew.
§ ita § - Mar 02, 2012 11:33:51 am PST #18566 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
If you have a bunch of popular heroes, why not put them in a story where they're together?
I'm misrepresenting my angle. I'm not saying why tell the story *of* the Avengers, I'm asking why tell the story *about* the Avengers? How does word of it get to my parents, is the question? How does it embed itself into the generic pop culture of the early 21st century, instead of just being part of a fandom?
X Men stands a marginal chance for being a civil rights echo, but do the Avengers? I think all the JLA has going for it is that it's what Superman and Batman belong to. There's no reason to talk about talking about it. Especially since it only seems to exist in the comic and cartoon universes, and not in the movie universe, which gets more mainstream penetration.