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Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

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Steph L. - Feb 07, 2012 5:59:16 am PST #17999 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

That's the one aspect that I didn't like about the previous set of Spider-Man films. I missed the sarcasm that the comic book Spidey had.

Oh, man, that was one of my biggest disappointments about the Raimi films. I grew up reading Spider-Man, and loved his sarcastic quippiness (that's one of the things that made me love BTVS so quickly -- the way Buffy would snark while she fought reminded me of Spidey).


§ ita § - Feb 07, 2012 6:18:50 am PST #18000 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Do you think of his sarcasm as a pissy thing, or as a "I refuse to let you bring me down" thing? Because this trailer--well, he was snarky like I'm snarky. Which is not Spider-man to me.


Tom Scola - Feb 07, 2012 6:22:22 am PST #18001 of 30000
hwæt

What do you mean by "pissy"? Peter Parker has all sorts of real-world problems with his Aunt May, his boss, his girlfriends, and he deals with them by taking out his anger on the baddies that he beats up.


Polter-Cow - Feb 07, 2012 6:23:10 am PST #18002 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

My vision of Spidey comes from the '90s cartoon, and I agree that the sarcasm in the trailer is not quite that devil-may-care gleeful, but it's more than we got from the Raimi Spidey. Well, we won't count "You're the one who's out, Gobby! Out of your mind!"

I think there's a lot of exciting stuff in the trailer, from the vigilante-chased-by-the-cops angle to finally getting the Lizard after being teased with him for three movies. It also looks like it has a sense of fun despite being "dark" and "edgy."


§ ita § - Feb 07, 2012 6:32:00 am PST #18003 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Peter Parker is angsty, but I'm not used to that coming out in his combat repartee. There he seems more flippant, like he's not taking it as seriously as it might deserve, regardless of what shit he's going through in his life.


Consuela - Feb 07, 2012 8:06:30 am PST #18004 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I am so on the fence about John Carter.

I am angry they changed the name from A Princess of Mars; I am skeptical about Kitsch's ability to anchor a big action flick (the character is a long way from Tim Riggins); I am cranky about how the plot is basically "What these people need is a honky." I think the trailer makes it look dorky and stupid. I don't like the cliche'd premise that Carter is a Confederate officer. The character of John Carter in the novels isn't particularly complicated or interesting, he's a 2D hero. And Dejah Thoris is, of course, merely a damsel in distress in the books, around just to be rescued & married.

And yet! Andrew Stanton (who made Toy Story!) directed it. Michael Chabon helped with the script. The effects do look kind of amazing, as does the landscape. And the woman who saw this test screening said it was excellent: [link]

So, argh.

OTOH, it opens while I'm in Spain, so I suspect by the time I come back the reviews will be in.


Jessica - Feb 07, 2012 8:40:55 am PST #18005 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

(who made Toy Story!)

And, more importantly, Wall-E and Finding Nemo. He is my most favoritist Pixar director.


§ ita § - Feb 07, 2012 8:48:20 am PST #18006 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Speaking of Pixar (about whose movies I am neutral), IO9 showed some concept art from Brave, and I don't really care what the storyline is, I'll be there with tissues.


tommyrot - Feb 07, 2012 8:50:09 am PST #18007 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

IO9 showed some concept art from Brave,

Yeah, those were nice.


Sean K - Feb 07, 2012 9:10:35 am PST #18008 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I could go for an edgier Peter Parker.

But that's the point that I'm making -- I didn't see anything remotely dark or edgy about it. As far as I could tell from the trailer alone, the only thing making this movie any darker or edgier than Raimi's films is that more scenes were shot at night.

That's not darker except in a strictly literal sense, and not at all edgier to me.