Here is a very detailed account of the changes that were made from the original Terminator: Salvation script, who made them, and when, and why. The writer is an ex-colleage of DH's (ex because he now lives and works in LA) and as far as I know all of his information is good.

The article assumes you've seen the film, and so is on the spoilery side.

I really wish I'd seen the original conception of this movie. It still would have had massive problems, but at least they would have been interesting ones.

Thanks for that link, Jessica. Eeenteresting. Fucking Bale. And, seriously, they brought on the writers that did T3?! Fucking Bale and his fucking ego.

I am still waiting for the fanfiction that rewrites the ending.

And I am so onboard with the STAF, they so should have done it. For exactly the reasons stated in that article.

It really still kills me. That trailer that I am still besotted by implied promises of deep thinky things, radically changing everything we thought we knew about the war with the machines, sweeping epic love, and none of that. Fucking nothing as advertised. Fuck you, McG, fuck you Bale.

I would, and will, however, go see it again for Worthington. And Yelchin.

I wish I could just hate it and walk away, no skin off my back. But it's fucking Terminator. It's not a reboot like Trek, it's a continuation, and that's just a damned disgrace. As bad as SCC sometimes got, they never got that low.

as a Terminator aficionado, i'm really not getting the hate on people have for Terminator: Salvation and there is NOTHING about the stuff in that link that i would have liked to see. well...except maybe Blair and Marcus getting it on. </shallow>

this movie was rare for me in that it had it had me rooting for a terminator over John Connor, but still. i loved it.

the things in that link that I would have liked to see would have been the less John, more Kyle.

But otherwise, the original script was also ridunkulous.

I only half-hated it. The Marcus stuff was 90% fab, but the Connor bits bored me to tears and were rather underwhelming and had me groaning and rolling my eyes a lot, and the end was just a huge WTF, but not in a good way, and certainly not in a way that the "original" end would have been.

The more I think about it, the more things fall down. Not in a plot, timey-wimey way.

Okay, I'm walking away from this before I start tre-peating myself.

I loved Huckabees and The Apartment. After I saw the latter I watched every other Shirley MacLaine movie I could get my hands on. The Trouble With Charlie is one of my favorites.

That's a great one, Laga! So funny.

There are many things about that original script that would have been cool, but other things would...not have been. I can see some of the flaws in the finished product as illuminated in the comparisons, but...I still thought it was a good movie.

Speaking of trailers, the other day I watched two trailers that have me very interested. Scroll down to 21/05/09 for Surrogates and Gamer.

The latter, starring Gerard Butler and Michael C Hall, looks pretty good, albeit as a kind of bastard child of Harsh Realm and Running Man.

However, the former is the one that really interests me.

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I'm wondering how Surrogates will score on the Bruce Willis Toupeé Index - generally speaking, the closer the movie comes to showing his natural hairline, the better it is.

After I saw the latter I watched every other Shirley MacLaine movie I could get my hands on. The Trouble With Charlie is one of my favorites.

Pssst, Harry.

I have a special fondness for that film since it's one of the few filmed in the Northeast Kingdom of VT, where I spent my summers growing up.

Pssst, Harry.

I thought that looked wrong. It's the funny Hitchcock!