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Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

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Strega - Sep 25, 2011 3:10:10 pm PDT #16244 of 30000

I would have preferred more information about Reynolds' character's motivation.

For something in particular? I don't think he particularly wants anything for much of the movie.

re the whitefont: Well, for the second job, they certainly weren't going to tell him anything, much less care if he approved. But I would imagine he's always like that, because he doesn't want to be involved. He's just an independent contractor.


§ ita § - Sep 25, 2011 3:18:30 pm PDT #16245 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Reynolds or Gosling? Am confuse.


Strega - Sep 26, 2011 6:55:42 am PDT #16246 of 30000

Ha, I didn't even register that. Gosling.

That reminds me of the Videogum fake interview with Gosling.

VG: It’s just really cool that Ryan Reynolds thinks I’m cool.
RG: Did you just call me Ryan Reynolds?
VG: Absolutely not. I would never do that.
RG: I think you did.
VG: If I called you Ryan Reynolds I would kill myself.
RG: That seems like a bit much.

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Typo Boy - Sep 26, 2011 7:09:24 am PDT #16247 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Interesting. So even though literally "shit" the impact is more like "damn".

BTW, if I want to track down the original was it also called "A pain in the ass" not that Brel won't be enough to let me google and IMDB it, but if anyone knows offhand without needing to look it up...


billytea - Sep 26, 2011 7:16:48 am PDT #16248 of 30000
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Interesting. So even though literally "shit" the impact is more like "damn".

See also "Bugger". Actually, come to think of it, that does translate at both levels to "a pain in the arse".


smonster - Sep 26, 2011 8:50:24 am PDT #16249 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

megan, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't "con" and all its derivatives also much milder in French than their literal translations?


megan walker - Sep 26, 2011 8:59:14 am PDT #16250 of 30000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

BTW, if I want to track down the original was it also called "A pain in the ass" not that Brel won't be enough to let me google and IMDB it, but if anyone knows offhand without needing to look it up...

No idea if it was released here. I think IMDB has it as L'emmerdeur.

"Con" et al is very versatile. It can mean everything from stupid to *sshole/b*tch depending on context and tone. I'm not sure I would use either con or merde in front of my elderly aunts, but either could easily occur in the office or similar setting without people thinking twice about it.


le nubian - Sep 26, 2011 9:08:48 am PDT #16251 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Strega,

I meant for life in general. The motivation for the last half of the movie is clear, but why does he live life like he does? I get it is supposed to be part of the masculine mystery, but I would have liked a bit more emotional connection.


Strega - Sep 26, 2011 11:23:10 am PDT #16252 of 30000

Well, I don't think you can connect to him emotionally. It's sort of about that. He lives life as he does because it functions, and he doesn't need anything else. I took him as sociopathic, basically. Not sadistic, but he’s a career criminal who lives in a world where other humans are inherently dangerous. I thought the "Want a toothpick?" line was funny because it revealed how unsocialized he is.

You get a few hints like that about him, and obviously the jacket (which I do think got too anvil-y). But when he tells Irene that the couple of days he spent with her & the kid were the best of his life? I'm was sure that was true. And I don't think he'd have gotten drawn into that relationship at all if it weren't for the kid. I was sort of speculating about his background during the movie, so I looked up the book to check my guesses. I just skimmed a bit but in the novella you do learn that his father was a burglar who used him for jobs when he was little, then his mother killed his father in front of him, and after a few years in a foster home he hit the road. So...yeah.


le nubian - Sep 26, 2011 12:56:55 pm PDT #16253 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

oh, well thanks for those details. I kind of wish that had been in the movie with brief flashbacks. but don't you also think that someone with a burglar for a father would have a basic distrust of people? Nevermind foster care. I would have appreciated more distrust on display earlier in the film.