I would be there right now.

Simon ,'Objects In Space'


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smonster - Sep 05, 2011 8:34:44 am PDT #16157 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Worst Neighbor Ever.

David Hewlett!! I mean, I can kind of understand his frustration at that point. And he certainly got his comeuppance in a number of ways.

Also, I love John Lithgow.


juliana - Sep 05, 2011 7:50:28 pm PDT #16158 of 30000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Eff Christopher Nolan.

Awww. I still love Inception, though I'm coming to the conclusion that he's the William Gibson of action movies.


smonster - Sep 05, 2011 7:52:27 pm PDT #16159 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

he's the William Gibson of action movies

Having never read any William Gibson, what does this mean?

It's funny, I am completely satisfied with my interpretation of Inception and lurve it to bits, problematic as it is.

Also, hi juliana!!


juliana - Sep 05, 2011 8:00:57 pm PDT #16160 of 30000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Gibson (I'm really speaking of early Gibson, Neuromancer Gibson) builds these super-intricate worlds that are completely amazing, but the level of technological brilliance is offset by the fact that you don't really connect with the characters on a deep level. You like them, you root for them, but you don't really see inside them so much. (Partially because the characters are often mysteries to themselves.)

I love almost everything Gibson's written to be honest. It's just something I've noticed about his writing. (And the Gibson influences are why I love The Matrix so much. Such a cool movie.)


smonster - Sep 05, 2011 8:10:32 pm PDT #16161 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Ah, I see.

you don't really see inside them so much. (Partially because the characters are often mysteries to themselves.)

That is a good explanation for the fic explosion around the film. So much room to play...


juliana - Sep 05, 2011 8:13:57 pm PDT #16162 of 30000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Yup. Except that, in Inception, the only character who's a mystery to himself is Dom - everyone else just chooses not to reveal much of anything.

(Also, I wish fandom wrote more Saito. I love Eames and would very much like to be him, but I want more Saito.)

smishes smnoster


Fiona - Sep 05, 2011 11:53:27 pm PDT #16163 of 30000

Calls in the maid who takes it from him, throws it in the dustbin....

I don't know if there is a difference in the English and German versions - I show the German one in my class - but here the maid throws the dead bird into the fire. Which always elicits a nice gasp from my students.

I show the beginning of "Blue Angel" when discussing the transition to sound, along with the end of "All Quiet on the Western Front" and various bits of "M". Now there's another classic. After I show them the scenes around the first "on-screen" murder, you could hear a pin drop.


le nubian - Sep 06, 2011 1:28:55 am PDT #16164 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Except that, in Inception, the only character who's a mystery to himself is Dom - everyone else just chooses not to reveal much of anything.

Yeah, but isn't that because, like The Game, a main point of Inception is that it functioned as an intervention for the main character. He had to be pushed to change.


Strega - Sep 06, 2011 2:59:02 am PDT #16165 of 30000

the level of technological brilliance is offset by the fact that you don't really connect with the characters on a deep level

Interesting. I don't disagree, but I think that's actually what I like about Nolan (and the Coens & Kubrick, for that matter). I mean, I agree that he's not concerned with getting the audience to really identify with the characters, but historically I don't do that anyway, so. I guess... to me there's usually a deliberate exploration of "What sort of person would do this, and why?" Whether or not we should support those choices is left open. (And I do understand that this is why many people don't like those directors. But: I'm right and everyone else is wrong! Ptbtbtb.)


Typo Boy - Sep 06, 2011 3:55:35 am PDT #16166 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I don't know if there is a difference in the English and German versions - I show the German one in my class - but here the maid throws the dead bird into the fire.

Just thought it was a funny shaped dustbin. But you are right, it was a fire, which would have had even more impact if I realized it. Yes it was the German version with English subtitles. Did not know there was an English version.