Wow, you've really mastered the power of positive giving-up.

Cordelia ,'End of Days'


Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

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Juliebird - May 18, 2009 12:01:44 pm PDT #1526 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Bana had some killer lines in there that seemed so freaking iconic, like "I should have killed you when I had the chance!" and "Fire everything!!!

and then there were his hilarious modernly casual "Hi Christopher, I'm Nero."


juliana - May 18, 2009 2:47:32 pm PDT #1527 of 30000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Saw ST2009 again yesterday, and I definitely saw some female officers in pants. Not many, though.

What stuck in my mind this time is Earth geography. Because if Starfleet is supposed to be HQ'ed in the Presidio, how the fuck can they see the TransAmerica pyramid and still be so close to the water? What, did the Big One leave the coastline and kill the two giant honking hills in between the Presidio and the Pyramid?

(I don't think anything in the above is spoilery, but feel free to tell me to whitefont if you do.)


§ ita § - May 18, 2009 3:16:44 pm PDT #1528 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I definitely saw some female officers in pants. Not many, though.

Someone on LJ noted that the female officers on the Kelvin wore pants, but not the rest. Does that jibe with what you saw?


sj - May 18, 2009 6:01:43 pm PDT #1529 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Finally saw Trek tonight, and OMG LOVED! None of the nits picked here bothered me, but I don't remember Romulans having those face tattoos. Am I just spacing on that, or were they new?


amych - May 18, 2009 6:06:18 pm PDT #1530 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

sj, they're new. I think they needed a way to play dress-up while they were spending 25 years hanging around waiting for wormholes to open.


sj - May 18, 2009 6:08:44 pm PDT #1531 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Thanks, amych. I didn't even realize that they were supposed to be Romulans until they said it.


sj - May 18, 2009 6:21:05 pm PDT #1532 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

One more Trek question: How was Pike injured in TOS? It has been ages since I saw that episode, and it struck me that Pike was older than he should have been.


Laga - May 18, 2009 8:43:22 pm PDT #1533 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

if Starfleet is supposed to be HQ'ed in the Presidio, how the fuck can they see the TransAmerica pyramid and still be so close to the water?

Pretty much any movie you watch that's set somewhere you're familiar with the geography you're going to find something that doesn't make any sense.

In When Harry Met Sally they drive the wrong way on Lake Shore Drive to get to New York from the University of Chicago.

In Wayne's World there's palm trees and mountains in Aurora Illinois.

In Titanic there's pacific white sided dolphins in the north atlantic.


Polter-Cow - May 18, 2009 9:15:37 pm PDT #1534 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

amych, they're explained in the tie-in comics. The markings are normally a temporary symbol of grief, and Nero and his men tattooed them on since they didn't intend to let go of their grief.

I saw Terminator Salvation tonight! It's a pretty awesome depiction of the War Against the Machines.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - May 18, 2009 11:13:22 pm PDT #1535 of 30000
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

I'm so late into the Trek discussion that I might have missed something. So I don't know if this question has been answered. But what was with Uhura knowing all three dialects of Romulan, and others knowing that it was a difficult language to distinguish from Vulcan? I didn't think they'd had much contact with Romulans at this point, and they definitely didn't work out the relationship between Romulans and Vulcans until much later than this. The only possible answer is that Nero was off making the Romulans known to the universe in his 25-year hiatus. Which could answer the 'what was he doing?' question. But that doesn't quite work. That bit of discontinuity bothered me more than all the silliness of red matter, instant black holes and time travel that changes everything.

But otherwise, TREK TREK TREK. Pure awesomeness. My g/f fell asleep half way through. In future I am only going to see cult movies with other fans.

Also, are they planning future movies in this alternate universe? Because the coolest way forward would be to end the Trek franchise there, IMO.

I watched my first TNG episode (I think it was 'Code of Honor') with my dad. I was about 12. We always bonded over sci-fi. He bought me my first Isaac Asimov books.

I don't think JJ Abrams has a problem with strong women characters, so I think he did a good job of deepening her character and giving her some centrality.

He does cast his women in supporting roles, not leadership roles, though. As The Girl and I were remarking upon while watching old episodes of Lost the other day. Consistently, Jack, Locke and Sawyer lead while Kate and Juliet follow (even if the girls do get to shoot things quite often). And there are only really three women with whole-series-spanning, ongoing roles in the story, compared with a lot of male protagonists.