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Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

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Polter-Cow - May 15, 2009 5:23:41 pm PDT #1461 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I just know that while "Where no man has gone before" was blatantly the first episode

It was so weird, though, because it didn't really feel like a pilot at all. There was no explaining who anyone was or anything; it was just like...and here we are on a ship with these characters, welcome to the show, already in progress.

Granted, there are arguments to this day which order the Prisoner episodes should really be in, which also was mostly (aside from first and last two episodes) a continuity free show, recurring actors be damned (Leo McKern excepted).

Wait, really?? I always assumed it was very continuity-heavy. Granted, I know next to nothing about it (and plan to keep it that way until I get around to seeing it).


Connie Neil - May 15, 2009 6:06:34 pm PDT #1462 of 30000
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There was no explaining who anyone was or anything; it was just like...and here we are on a ship with these characters, welcome to the show, already in progress.

No mollycoddling in those days, we were expected to hop on the story train and hang on and be happy about it, damn it. None of this psychological underpinnings and trauma in his youth or tragic background story. You had a bunch of guys in the space navy and what happens to them. And we liked it!


Frankenbuddha - May 15, 2009 9:11:05 pm PDT #1463 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Wait, really?? I always assumed it was very continuity-heavy.

US TV, apart from soaps, was not really big with continuity. That's why there used to be a thing called mini-series. I think Hill Street Blues is often mentioned as the show that broke that trend. Well, and Soap. I mean MASH lasted longer than the war it was about AND had an episode that covered an entire year.


Hayden - May 15, 2009 10:49:37 pm PDT #1464 of 30000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Raq, nope, not me. My 2-disc Criterion copy is now out-of-date.


Strega - May 15, 2009 11:16:52 pm PDT #1465 of 30000

US TV, apart from soaps, was not really big with continuity.

It's entirely possible that I've missed a step here, but The Prisoner wasn't an American production.

But on the larger point, it really depends on what you mean by continuity. I shall quote Lawrence Miles, because he's my new soulmate:

To most viewers, continuity is a light breeze which blows throughout all TV drama, quietly ensuring that the carnation in Mr Popplewick's buttonhole doesn't move from the right side of his waistcoast to the left side between shots. Yet in the sci-fi philosophy, Continuity is a vengeful and malevolent god, who demands that the Seven Laws of the Mangooskan Federation [established in episode 1.12] must be strictly upheld throughout the rest of the series [even in episode 3.05, which is technically set in a parallel universe, but one where the Treaty of Mangooska 6 is still in effect].

Continuity is not the same as pedantry. She said, pedantically.


Frankenbuddha - May 16, 2009 4:40:48 am PDT #1466 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

It's entirely possible that I've missed a step here, but The Prisoner wasn't an American production

Whoops, I think I meant English-language TV, but it was late. I don't really know enough to comment on non-English-language TV. And the Mangooskans are assholes.


beekaytee - May 16, 2009 10:33:47 am PDT #1467 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

No mollycoddling in those days, we were expected to hop on the story train and hang on and be happy about it, damn it. None of this psychological underpinnings and trauma in his youth or tragic background story. You had a bunch of guys in the space navy and what happens to them. And we liked it!

This is awesomely true.

Continuity...the actual paying attention to things, or lack there of...makes me sad sometimes. I know there are a million details to be watched over but, come on. I point to the cigarette and scotch glass in the Oscar Winning, Scent of a Woman. What? Nobody watched the dailies and said,"While that may have been the very best gutteral twaddle ever to come out of Al Pacino's mouth, you know, that scene needs to be reshot."

Last night I watched an episode of ReGenesis where a white flag magically moved from one side to the other of a moving jeep. What would have been hard about keeping THAT straight?


Polter-Cow - May 16, 2009 12:11:40 pm PDT #1468 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I just watched La Jetée. I, uh, prefer 12 Monkeys. A guy narrating over a slideshow just doesn't do it for me. As is usually the case, I prefer the inspired products to the inspirations themselves.


DavidS - May 16, 2009 12:45:25 pm PDT #1469 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

As is usually the case, I prefer the inspired products to the inspirations themselves.

You are a sucker for the simulacra.


Glamcookie - May 16, 2009 3:02:57 pm PDT #1470 of 30000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Saw Star Trek. Was underwhelmed. It was enjoyable enough, but I don't get the big love for it. My main annoyance was the absolute lack of women with any agency or any real meaningful contribution to the plot. Let's recap: Spock's mother (a laughably Linda Lavin-esque Winona Ryder) had to be saved but wasn't, Uhura was there primarily as Spock's girlfriend, and Jim's mother was absent for the entire film. Were there even any other female characters in the movie? I think they could have learned from BSG and perhaps cast a woman in one of the primary, formerly male, roles. Let's bring it into the 21st century, dudes.

I thought Quinto was great and I enjoyed Urban, too. I really disliked Scotty, Chekov, and Kirk.