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§ ita § - Apr 01, 2011 5:52:55 am PDT #13898 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The failure of new and different films like Scott Pilgrim reinforce this idea in the minds of the studio.

Which was an adaptation. And, which, I plain didn't like, so I don't shed any tears.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 01, 2011 5:54:55 am PDT #13899 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Actually, can we remake all of Jim Carrey's movies with someone I don't want to kill in his roles?

And Ashton Kutcher is your go-to guy for this?


Amy - Apr 01, 2011 5:56:28 am PDT #13900 of 30000
Because books.

Anything new and different is a huge crapshoot.

And that's true for every industry. Publishers promote the books of authors who are already bestsellers, because they want to make sure they get those titles sold, at the very least. Music producers know if preteen girls liked the Jonas Brothers, they're going to love Justin Bieber. It's not a new phenomenon.


Steph L. - Apr 01, 2011 5:56:33 am PDT #13901 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I was trying to think of someone suitably obnoxious.

Also, he was awesome in Dude, Where's my Car? -- I give him a huge pass for that.


Jessica - Apr 01, 2011 5:58:03 am PDT #13902 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

You know what needs to be remade? Dumb and Dumber!!! I mean, who doesn't want to see that again, with maybe Aston Kutcher and that other annoying dude, you know the one. AMIRITE???

Didn't they already do that with the sequel? (Or was it sequelS?)


Sophia Brooks - Apr 01, 2011 6:16:57 am PDT #13903 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

You know- I am totally not a person who has a gripe with remakes/adaptations anything-- I do theater for gosh sake. I am trying to reserve judgment, but Jennifer Garner as Miss Marple really has me puzzled. Unless they put her in age make-up. Or, I guess, show her younger life, before Murder Is Announced and she started solving crimes.


Steph L. - Apr 01, 2011 6:17:22 am PDT #13904 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Didn't they already do that with the sequel? (Or was it sequelS?)

I have blocked it (them?) from my mind. DO NOT SHATTER MY DELUSION.


Daisy Jane - Apr 01, 2011 7:14:50 am PDT #13905 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I really don't think it is. Or at least, it's no more insane than it's been in the past. Part of the problem is that our view of the past is skewed. A lot of the films which have sunk without trace were probably remakes but we have no cultural memory of then.

I've seen this argument made against, "All music today is crap!"

RE: Independent films. I've seen some creative distribution/financing ideas from some indy filmmakers.


DavidS - Apr 01, 2011 7:24:13 am PDT #13906 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I've seen this argument made against, "All music today is crap!"

There are definitely cycles in music which are more exciting and innovative. But usually they're out of sight in some kind of regional scene or underground where they can develop while the mainstream scene is a bit bland.

However, the music business has changed so radically over the last ten years that I'm wondering if that's possible anymore.

Bubblegum, to cite an example I know well, used to be driven by independent producers. Studio insiders and hustlers who'd whip something up and get it out onto the market. But now Bubblegum is driven by huge mega corporations who see it as an extremely profitable genre with a built in audience.

Disney's vertical integration allows them to create an act, put them on TV incessantly and play them Radio Disney and then get them on some ABC show as well. Even the Cheetah Girls made a lot of money, and (in order) High School Musical, Hannah Montana and the Jonas Brothers all made billions. Not hundreds of millions - but billions. And most of that is from the ancillary marketing - the Jonas brothers pillows and Hannah Montana lunch boxes. Though the tours are also incredibly lucrative.


Steph L. - Apr 01, 2011 7:33:18 am PDT #13907 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I've seen this argument made against, "All music today is crap!"

That holds true for all values of "today." The #1 song in 1969? Sugar Sugar.* Also released in 1969, but not as a single? Gimme Shelter.

*(Apologies to fans of the Archies, but I'd rank Gimme Shelter above Sugar Sugar any day.)