I don't think I am, and I can only speak for myself. I mean, I sat (most of the way) through Mixed Nuts.
I think tv shows are getting more nuanced and complex and movies are getting more formulaic. Not across the board, but trending.
I mean, let's say you did kill us. Or didn't. There could be torture. Whatever. But somehow you found the goods. What would your cut be?
Mal ,'Out Of Gas'
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Daisy Jane - Mar 31, 2011 12:45:50 pm PDT #13858 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
erikaj - Mar 31, 2011 12:46:29 pm PDT #13859 of 30000
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-
Still haven't seen it yet. Bad media geek, no biscuit. Must conflict with Maddow, because otherwise? Olyphant+ Leonard=swooning But as Rachel Maddow goes, so goes my nation.
Daisy Jane - Mar 31, 2011 12:48:12 pm PDT #13860 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
You can watch it (late) on Hulu.
erikaj - Mar 31, 2011 12:48:25 pm PDT #13861 of 30000
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-
Barry Levinson said some time ago that if you want stories about people, you want television.
Typo Boy - Mar 31, 2011 12:50:43 pm PDT #13862 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
I do get annoyed when a derivation pisses on the source material. For instant the key to Constantine's character a principled rebel and a selfish bastard. And the "principled rebel" bit is opposition to kings and parliaments, gods, devils and angels alike. So when the movie has as a subplot Constantine fighting to save his soul from damnatation and get back into God's grace, that pretty much does piss on the central premise. Not enough of the "selfish bastard" either, though to be fair the source Constantine has a huge noble "defy risks for the greater good, or for the good of friends and family" streak too. Part of the interest of Constantine is seeing the genuinely altruistic side and the selfish bastard coexisting in the same person. (Some of the worst things Constantine does is sacrificing OTHER people for the greater good, and to be fair, we do get a glimpse of that in the film.) One place the bastard and the altruistic reconcile in Constantine is that both halves of his personality are anarchists, and both haves will take huge risks, and go to great trouble, to say "screw you" to cause trouble for authority.
IMO opinion, the film pisses on its Hellblazer source pretty throughly. And its not deconstruction, not satire. Could have called the character "Julian" and not tied it to "Hellblazer" at all.
§ ita § - Mar 31, 2011 12:50:43 pm PDT #13863 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Barry Levinson said some time ago that if you want stories about people, you want television.
What are movies, then, in contrast?
§ ita § - Mar 31, 2011 12:51:03 pm PDT #13864 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
[that was a surreal double post]
Typo Boy - Mar 31, 2011 12:53:03 pm PDT #13865 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Oh and if you have Comcast On demand Justified is on on-demand.
erikaj - Mar 31, 2011 12:56:58 pm PDT #13866 of 30000
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-
Yeah, I should do that... ita, I think his point was that movie characters are far larger-than-life than they used to be. Not that he is completely unbiased, having once made a period comedy about aluminum-siding salesmen, but, you know, fwiw.
Daisy Jane - Mar 31, 2011 1:00:18 pm PDT #13867 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
What are movies, then, in contrast?
From someone who doesn't really buy into that quote, a finite amount of time/event that can shed light on how characters behave in that situation/that amount of time. But, with tv you see them go through many events etc. and that sheds more light on the characters as people?