yes, "did I really have to leave the house for this?"
Angel: Just admit it: you think you're gonna ride in, save the day, and sweep Buffy off her--Spike: Like you're not thinking the same thing. Angel: I'm already seeing somebody. Spike: What, dog girl?
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le nubian - May 14, 2009 2:25:18 pm PDT #1378 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Sean K - May 14, 2009 2:27:22 pm PDT #1379 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
What is the distinction between a long TV episode and a movie?
For me, it's a little bit of what Juliebird said, but also it's about the timing of the dramatic beats. Now I'm not talking some formulaic, this-happens-by/on-this-page thing, but there is a fundamental difference in how you should approach the rhythm of your story when you're making a movie as opposed to a TV show.
I think First Contact was the most valiant effort the Next Gen crew put forth, but I can still pinpoint where the commercial breaks are supposed to fall. 100% pure, undiluted TV storytelling.
I never saw I Want to Believe, but I believe that it was TV movie making. Fight the Future had the same problem.
I do think Serenity suffered from it a little bit, but in a more residual, ghost-like fashion. As final arbiter on this matter, I thus deem Serenity an actual film.
§ ita § - May 14, 2009 2:34:17 pm PDT #1380 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think to earn "movie" the airing should exceed the standard scope, either visually or narrative-wise, preferably both. The stakes should definitely feel higher, if not the reward.
Sean K - May 14, 2009 2:38:52 pm PDT #1381 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
I think to earn "movie" the airing should exceed the standard scope, either visually or narrative-wise, preferably both. The stakes should definitely feel higher, if not the reward.
Very much this too. For me, I never once felt like First Contact (or really any of the Next Gen movies) wasn't showing me something they couldn't show me in a two-part episode.
Matt the Bruins fan - May 14, 2009 2:41:03 pm PDT #1382 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
No love for Picard as Locutus?
I have enough to make up for any lack on other people's part. My friends and I were amazed that TNG actually improved on the excitement of "Yesterday's Enterprise," when we'd previously thought it was probably going to be the high water mark for the entire series.
erikaj - May 14, 2009 2:43:56 pm PDT #1383 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!
Yeah, I think they should take more chances or something, and not just with nudity and language. Yeah, now that you mention it, I get what you mean about holodeck eps, but I just wanted one so I could play with it. And I don't see why some of those things couldn't change anything; we've all been changed by stuff we've read or watched, or we wouldn't be here, right?
Sean K - May 14, 2009 2:51:06 pm PDT #1384 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Picard going into the holodeck, turning off the "safeties", and killing a Borg with a tommy gun? TV writing all the way.
DavidS - May 14, 2009 2:54:15 pm PDT #1385 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Okay geeks: Which surname figures prominently in both Trek and Batman lore?
(I just stumbled across this tidbit but I expect others know it.)
Dana - May 14, 2009 2:54:56 pm PDT #1386 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Grayson.
le nubian - May 14, 2009 2:57:17 pm PDT #1387 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Troi! (ha)