On my seventh birthday, I wanted a toy fire truck, and I didn't get it, and you were real nice about it, and then the house next door burnt down, and then real firetrucks came, and for years I thought you set the fire for me. And if you did, you can tell me!

Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'


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smonster - Mar 19, 2011 8:55:39 am PDT #13670 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

It's bullshit.

Exactly. And projects that do succeed are dismissed as flukes. It's confirmation bias, wrapped up in business.


§ ita § - Mar 19, 2011 9:53:11 am PDT #13671 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If they can't justify it for this project, they'll never justify it.

If they couldn't justify it with Avatar, they'll never justify it. That movie had to have non-white leads to stay true to a text that was visual and full of cues. This one merely may.

I think it would be great if they cast non white for Katniss, but I don't think it's a cultural and ethnic erasure the likes of what has gone before.

I also notice no one seemed to be bitching (not pointing at people here, just noting) until the actress in question was blonde. The other actresses weren't less white. They were just less blonde. I don't know if Jennifer is a natural blonde, and I really don't care.


Polter-Cow - Mar 19, 2011 10:46:13 am PDT #13672 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I watched Trainspotting when I was a kid, but I didn't really get it. I rewatched it this morning and dug it. It's briskly paced and kinetically directed, and the actors make their characters sympathetic even when there's no real reason for them to be. Plus, Kelly Macdonald! In her film debut! Naked!


tommyrot - Mar 19, 2011 11:22:06 am PDT #13673 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Also. shit humor!

OK, maybe that didn't need an exclamation point.

Also, I need to rewatch that.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 19, 2011 11:51:37 am PDT #13674 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Also. shit humor!

In more than one sense of the word, though I understand there are people who thought it a lot funnier than I did.


Burrell - Mar 19, 2011 12:02:24 pm PDT #13675 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

DH and I saw Trainspotting on our first date.


Amy - Mar 19, 2011 12:07:55 pm PDT #13676 of 30000
Because books.

I've probably told the story before, but I saw Trainspotting when I was pregnant with Ben, got to the dead baby scene, and promptly lost my shit. Highly doubtful I'll ever watch it again, although I can appreciate what they were doing. Sort of.


Polter-Cow - Mar 19, 2011 12:21:30 pm PDT #13677 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

DH and I saw Trainspotting on our first date.

And then you went back home and shot heroin?


Liese S. - Mar 19, 2011 12:44:34 pm PDT #13678 of 30000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I didn't bitch here before because I hadn't heard the casting was complete.


§ ita § - Mar 19, 2011 12:49:53 pm PDT #13679 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I didn't bitch here before because I hadn't heard the casting was complete.

I just wonder if it's notable that no one of colour was ever suggested for the casting in any avenues that I read, but until a blonde came up (and before it was final) it wasn't brought up as racist.

I, just...I will always eyeroll if someone thinks it takes only one race to match an unraced physical description that's not highly highly specific. It just seems that this is such a non-battle. There's no ethnicity being written here, and Collins seemed to be writing a white character.

Last Airbender was race-cleansing. This seems like another one of many instances of writing Caucasian on a casting sheet, and I don't get why it's getting more press than the tons of other times it seems to happen.

And, no, it doesn't feel like finally. Not to me. It feels like this is some sort of special written non-white scenario, when I see it (and, yes, all about me) as not-written-white, which is a whole different vibe.