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Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

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Connie Neil - May 14, 2009 12:57:22 pm PDT #1364 of 30000
brillig

My favorite TNG episode is the one where Picard has to learn how to communicate with the captain of a ship from a civilization that uses metaphors as language. Picard telling the story of Gilgamesh to the alien captain over a campfire is glorious.


Kathy A - May 14, 2009 1:04:07 pm PDT #1365 of 30000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Oooh, yes--that ep is great! Paul Winfield is terrific as the alien. Wasn't it titled "Darmok"?

As much as I like "Best of Both Worlds," I liked the film "First Contact" better for the Locutus residual.


erikaj - May 14, 2009 1:09:38 pm PDT #1366 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

I like the holideck ones...sorry I'm not more fannishly specific, but when I was twelve TNG was my BFF's show, not really mine in the same way. I liked it, though. And the movie with the whale lady.


Connie Neil - May 14, 2009 1:10:05 pm PDT #1367 of 30000
brillig

TNG lucked out when they got Patrick Stewart. The classical training gives a starship captain the proper gravitas.


erikaj - May 14, 2009 1:12:53 pm PDT #1368 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

Totally.


askye - May 14, 2009 1:29:25 pm PDT #1369 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

I prefer DS9 to TNG (I haven't seen enough of Voyager to compare and only saw one or two episodes of Enterprise) because of the character development, story arcs, and the level of inter personal conflict that allowed those arcs and development.

One of the complaints I heard about the concept of DS9 is that it's a space station! It doesn't go anywhere! And, true, the station stayed pretty much the same place (although there were excursions through the wormhole and other things)but the characters went places and had growth.

Part of it, from my understanding, is that Roddenberry didn't really want a lot of conflict between the Starfleet officers which meant that had to come from the outside. And in a ship that travels a lot there really wasn't a lot of places for that to come from.

There was some changes and growth but I was always left wanting more from TNG.


Anne W. - May 14, 2009 1:29:42 pm PDT #1370 of 30000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I don't know if a fic rec is appropriate for this thread or not, but this Trek fic had me laughing with delight and sobbing at the same time. (Assume massive spoilers, of course.)


Anne W. - May 14, 2009 1:31:24 pm PDT #1371 of 30000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Weetabix:

I prefer DS9 to TNG

askye is me on this. I loved how complex the DS9-verse was. Plus, "Far Beyond the Stars" and "The Visitor" are two of the finest hours of television, ever.


Sean K - May 14, 2009 1:48:19 pm PDT #1372 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

The movie has made me want to watch more Trek stuff, so maybe I'll seek some classic episodes.

The classic Trek episodes are not exempt from badness. They just have their own particular flavor of badness. What you have to understand P-C is that when people complain about Trek, it's because they're a fan. If you hear someone complaining loudly and at length about something Trek, they are a fan. Nobody else cares enough to think about it that much.

I like the holideck ones...

Ha! There were some good ones, but the holodeck episodes were among the most egregious violators of the "it never happened" trick.

I stopped watching Voyager after the first couple of seasons, but between holodeck and time travel episodes, I'm pretty sure over half of Voyager never actually happened.


Pete, Husband of Jilli - May 14, 2009 1:49:11 pm PDT #1373 of 30000
"I've got a gun! I've got a mother-flippin' gun!" - Moss, The IT Crowd

I guess there was once or twice that all power was diverted to the forward shields or something,

Yeah, but that cracked me up because When Pike ordered all the power to the forward shields, the very next thing they did was bank the Enterprise hard to starboard and got hit... you guessed it, in the side! That was an eye-roll moment for me.

Tasha's greatest moment was probably Yesterday's Enterprise.

I'm with Hec on this one.

As for TNG, we watched them by renting the videos as they were released on video before they were aired in the UK, unless you had the satellite channel which not many people did in those days. I cannot tell you how relieved I was to be able to have approximately 1 minute between the end of Best of Both Worlds part 1 & part 2. Waiting the entire summer for that cliffhanger's conclusion would have killed me.

And seasons 4 and later of DS9 rocked! I'm a big sucker for momentous spaceship battles and watching numerous Galaxy class starships hand the Cardassians their ass made me a very happy geek.