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billytea - Mar 18, 2011 4:57:34 am PDT #13632 of 30000
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

*Maybe* she's biracial, but most likely to me she's white.

Yeah, I'd describe three of my siblings as olive-skinned, and I'm the whitest white boy in Whitetown (albeit more a comment on my dancing than my complexion). I saw Katniss' racial background as a pretty diverse set of options than anything definitive.

The casting still feels somewhat wrong to me. I think it's because I have a hard time seeing someone who looks like they'd fit in the cast of Pretty Little Liars as experiencing the level of oppression in that book. (On which note, I just read it a month or two ago, and how messed up was it when they come under attack from the grotesque transformations of their slain competitors? )

Not that I've seen Winter's Bone, so maybe that's unfair to Ms Lawrence.


Consuela - Mar 18, 2011 5:16:20 am PDT #13633 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I think that if the casting specified white actresses only, that's pretty bad, though. Even if Lawrence is more than qualified for the role, the fact that they wouldn't consider someone biracial or Latina or whatever is a real strike against the producers.


§ ita § - Mar 18, 2011 5:46:46 am PDT #13634 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I truly wish they'd have to justify Caucasian every time they used it. They just had a casting call for a new character on Fringe, and lo! Caucasian. A show with a regular black character, a regular bi-racial, and a formerly regular Latino guy. Did they cast those by mistake? On purpose? What was that?

Just because I think of Katniss as white (and would *laugh* if they cast anyone whose hair obviously needed straightening) doesn't mean they can't make it work with something else. I just don't consider it whitewashing, since the character seemed written as white, just that she can be played a different way.


le nubian - Mar 18, 2011 6:23:50 am PDT #13635 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

billytea,

I flipped out at that part of the book. FLIPPED THE FUCK OUT. And the fact that the issue (in various incarnations) keeps coming up in the trilogy makes it even more disturbing and awful.

BTW, I did not know that Rue and Thresh were African American. Damn. As if all my buttons weren't pushed by the story anyway, this is going to fuck me up on screen.


lisah - Mar 18, 2011 6:47:01 am PDT #13636 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

Note that I've seen Winter's Bone, so maybe that's unfair to Ms Lawrence.

You mean you haven't seen it? Because she played oppressed very well in that.

I truly wish they'd have to justify Caucasian every time they used it.

yeah. There's really no reason that any of the characters in Hunger Games couldn't be any race. There's nothing in the story where race comes into play, unless I totally misread (like Jesse says, privilege!)or am misremembering. So many options to cast good people without regard to race.


le nubian - Mar 18, 2011 6:52:11 am PDT #13637 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

there are specific descriptions of people from certain districts being athletic and blonde, but that's all I recalled except for Katniss herself being olive skinned.


lisah - Mar 18, 2011 7:01:09 am PDT #13638 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

there are specific descriptions of people from certain districts being athletic and blonde, but that's all I recalled except for Katniss herself being olive skinned.

Sure, but the important thing to the story is that they are athletic, I think, not that they are blond.


Amy - Mar 18, 2011 7:09:33 am PDT #13639 of 30000
Because books.

there are specific descriptions of people from certain districts being athletic and blonde, but that's all I recalled except for Katniss herself being olive skinned.

I think that could have been a class shorthand, but it wasn't really emphasized.


le nubian - Mar 18, 2011 7:11:34 am PDT #13640 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

lisah, you know I didn't get that. Katniss contrasted herself pretty specifically (skin tone, hair color) with the district 1 & 2 (?) people. So yes, there was a hunger element, but it seemed to me from those two in particular, there seemed to be a skin tone as well.


sumi - Mar 18, 2011 7:20:20 am PDT #13641 of 30000
Art Crawl!!!

I thought it was class shorthand too - and why Kat's mother and little sister are blonde but she takes after her father - who was not in the same social class.