Yeah, I think you can have horror with perfectly natural but scary things going on. I don't know that there's a real difference definition-wise between terror and horror, but I tend to associate the latter with shock and denial/rejection on the part of the protagonist or victims, whereas the former is fright paired with acceptance of the scary circumstances.
Oh, God. Oh, God. My hair. My hair! The government gave me bad hair!
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Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 20, 2010 3:16:45 pm PST #12528 of 30000
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Jessica - Dec 20, 2010 6:15:07 pm PST #12529 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I think at least one definition is that the goal of the picture has to be to scare the audience, or to create an atmosphere of fear and uneasiness.
Yeah, I still can't really see Black Swan qualifying - there's really nothing overtly scary going on at all. Aronofsky is definitely using horror tropes, and some of the psychological stuff would be pretty horrifying if it weren't ultimately (IMO) so shallow and silly, but he's not using them to tell a scary story.
Laga - Dec 21, 2010 8:41:17 am PST #12530 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
I didn't realize The Wrestler was Aronofsky. I am glad I saw it but I would never watch it again.
Polter-Cow - Dec 21, 2010 9:11:36 am PST #12531 of 30000
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§ ita § - Dec 21, 2010 11:02:08 am PST #12532 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Is it worse for your god to be turned into an alien, or a lesser member of your pantheon to be a black guy?
le nubian - Dec 21, 2010 11:07:56 am PST #12533 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I'm going to assume the above question has context that I have forgotten or skipped over.
I would appreciate any indulgence regarding explanation of said context.
Jars - Dec 21, 2010 11:10:03 am PST #12534 of 30000
ita, did you read that some white supremacist group is calling for a boycott of Thor?
§ ita § - Dec 21, 2010 11:18:19 am PST #12535 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Well, in theory, I'm interested in answers without the context, but the specific context is Thor. Now, the characters in the movie aren't Norse gods. One is Asian, like in the comic, and one is black, unlike the comic. But they aren't gods. They're aliens. White supremacists seem okay with that part. Idris Elba, on the other hand! Dirty! Wrong!
DavidS - Dec 21, 2010 11:19:13 am PST #12536 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Idris Elba, on the other hand! Dirty! Wrong!
He may be dirty (one hopes), but never wrong.
Jars - Dec 21, 2010 11:26:15 am PST #12537 of 30000
Maybe aliens are better than pagans? It is hard to predict what bigots will have problems with.