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'Hell Bound'


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flea - Nov 24, 2010 11:45:05 am PST #12248 of 30000
information libertarian

Movie You Should Not Watch: Sky Kids 3-D: Game Over. Ricardo Montalban, Sylvester Stallone, and a cameo by Frodo. And terrible fx, really inexcusable given it was 2003.


Tom Scola - Nov 24, 2010 11:56:55 am PST #12249 of 30000
hwæt

It's Robert Rodriguez, who makes films with the change he finds between seat cushions.


§ ita § - Nov 24, 2010 12:00:56 pm PST #12250 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I want his current sofa.


Strega - Nov 24, 2010 3:37:30 pm PST #12251 of 30000

Todd Alcott is beginning an analysis of The Shining: [link]

I don't always agree with his take on things but he's always interesting, and he sure asks good questions. As soon as I read "Who is the protagonist?" I had to stop and think about it. And then I came to same conclusion he did, and felt dumb for never realizing it until that moment.


Amy - Nov 24, 2010 4:36:37 pm PST #12252 of 30000
Because books.

That was really interesting, Strega. I took a moment and guessed with my gut before reading it, figuring that Jack probably wouldn't be the protagonist, based on your reaction. And I got it right! It really is the only thing that makes sense when you take it apart like that.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 24, 2010 6:09:36 pm PST #12253 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Movie-wise, I think he's right, but in the book I think Danny is pretty clearly the protagonist . I also have to scratch my head about the reviewer's comment regarding the relative strength of survival as a motivation for the main character — the whole genre of horror is essentially built around people striving for just that, whether it's against a tangible monster, impersonal circumstances, or their own inner demons.


Strega - Nov 24, 2010 6:58:55 pm PST #12254 of 30000

Mmm, I dunno. Yes, your protagonist wants to survive, once survival isn't a given; survival is a pretty good motivator. One of the best! But even in a horror story, s/he wants other things that lead to the life-or-death scenario. Getting rich, or investigating a mystery, or creating a gene-spliced monstrosity, or having a romantic weekend with their girlfriend in a rustic cabin.... there's more than just "I sure wanna continue to breathe." The protagonist should drive the plot's action at some level, not just react to things and try to escape doom.


billytea - Nov 24, 2010 7:01:36 pm PST #12255 of 30000
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

creating a gene-spliced monstrosity, or having a romantic weekend with their girlfriend in a rustic cabin

Or, following my brother's dating history, both.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 24, 2010 7:37:48 pm PST #12256 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

creating a gene-spliced monstrosity, or having a romantic weekend with their girlfriend in a rustic cabin

Or depending on the movie, a combination of the two.


Strega - Nov 24, 2010 8:01:37 pm PST #12257 of 30000

I'm proud to be of service. And we need a quick-edit tag for rimshots.