But I read the key as that it was a surprise that happened at the opening of the movie, not just any thing. Which is why Matt's analogy to Darla sounded right. Not everything in every opening ten minutes of the movie falls into that category.
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§ ita § - Sep 01, 2010 4:12:10 pm PDT #11078 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Jesse - Sep 01, 2010 4:13:24 pm PDT #11079 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
In the example I was using, the analogy to Darla is right on -- it's a surprise that sets the tone for the rest, because it's not what you were expecting just from looking.
le nubian - Sep 01, 2010 4:57:50 pm PDT #11080 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
what movie sparked this discussion in the first place?
Jesse - Sep 01, 2010 4:59:05 pm PDT #11081 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I was keeping it a secret! It's The American. And what happens in the opening scene (apparently) is that George Clooney wakes up in bed with a woman, gets a phone call, and shoots her.
le nubian - Sep 01, 2010 5:15:40 pm PDT #11082 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
ha! sorry. I'm a secret buster, apparently. Well, thank you for sharing that. Given the plot of the movie, I'm not sure why that opening scene is a surprise. Going in, marginally knowing the plot (I don't really know much about the movie except the basic plot), I kind of expect something like that early in the film.
I heard the movie is boring, so I think I'm going to rent it.
Jesse - Sep 01, 2010 5:17:06 pm PDT #11083 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
It's not boring! It's an art film! From what I read.
le nubian - Sep 01, 2010 5:29:08 pm PDT #11084 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
ha!
It's not boring, it's art!
Frankenbuddha - Sep 01, 2010 6:21:10 pm PDT #11085 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I knew there was a twist to be discovered, and early in the movie they focused on Jaye's fake nails. For some reason that tipped me off.
I know folks who figured it was Forrest Whitaker getting offed so suddenly the way he did that was the big twist, and so weren't expecting anything else.
megan walker - Sep 01, 2010 6:26:10 pm PDT #11086 of 30000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist
Speaking of art that's not boring, I just got back from Le Concert.
It was more lighthearted than you would think a Franco-Russian film would be. Basically, it was a sports movie, but about Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto. Plus, Mélanie Laurent.
Strega - Sep 01, 2010 7:29:08 pm PDT #11087 of 30000
I don't think "if it's surprising, you shouldn't mention it" is going to clarify anything, since that's just as subjective, if not more so.
Lots of people figured that Angel was a vampire, because duh, but that was supposed to be a surprise.