It's possible that he's in the land of perpetual Wednesday, or the crazy melty land, or you know, the world without shrimp.

Anya ,'Showtime'


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Kathy A - Aug 06, 2010 8:55:16 am PDT #10423 of 30000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Michael Phillips of the Tribune uses the release of Step Up 3D to take a look at 3D musicals, dating back to the '50s.


smonster - Aug 06, 2010 11:25:10 am PDT #10424 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

The artist was selling prints, but last I looked they're gone. Probably got a C&D.


smonster - Aug 06, 2010 11:51:55 am PDT #10425 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

And now something NOT Inception-related!

Xposting here and Other Media: Casting sides come out for Runaways movie. Show early signs of fail. [link]


Typo Boy - Aug 06, 2010 4:52:55 pm PDT #10426 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Opinion please. Would the use of the word "cheesy" offend Escape from New York fans in the following?

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I think that x can best be understood through analogy to a cheesy 1981 John Carpenter film.

Escape from New York was set in a future New York City (in distant 1988!) which had been turned into a giant maximum security prison. Reactions to its cartoon violence, cynicism, B-movie sensibility and badly concealed idealism vary from love to hate to mockery.


Typo Boy - Aug 06, 2010 5:09:45 pm PDT #10427 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

DavidS - Aug 06, 2010 5:30:00 pm PDT #10428 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I don't know if John Carpenter's films are considered cheesy.

Yes he did genre movies and some b-movies, but he's most often been compared to Howard Hawks as a guy who mastered many genres and did it exceedingly well.

I mean, hell, Wm. Gibson cites Escape From New York as one of his influences on Neuromancer.


Amy - Aug 06, 2010 5:32:59 pm PDT #10429 of 30000
Because books.

Escape From New York is cheesy in the best way. I adore that movie, and Snake Plissken, and the whole gutted, decayed Manhattan-as-prison thing. We own it, actually.


Typo Boy - Aug 06, 2010 5:39:25 pm PDT #10430 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah I meant cheesy in the way Amy said. But I'm not sure cheesy is the right word. Now that I think about it EFNY is authentically B-movie. Can something authentic be cheesy? It seems like inauthenticy is part of the definition of cheesy not only in denotation but connotation.


DavidS - Aug 06, 2010 6:11:19 pm PDT #10431 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

There are a lot of cheesy b-movies, authentic or not.

I'm trying to think of what defines cheesiness to me.

It has something to with pandering within the genre. Sometimes that can be good cheese. Melodrama that's way over the top. Gratuitous violence and sex.

But I think Carpenter has more restraint than that.


Connie Neil - Aug 06, 2010 7:28:21 pm PDT #10432 of 30000
brillig

Escape from LA is much more cheesy than Escape from New York. I didn't know there was a community of people who mocked New York as a thing inherently deserving of mockery. Bits are over the top, of course, but it took itself seriously. There's a lot of dystopianism that is repeated in several other movies.

Anyway, I'm a fan of New York, and I'm taken aback by the use of "cheesy."