No, it's shiny! I like to meet new people. They've all got stories...

Kaylee ,'Serenity'


Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Calli - Mar 20, 2009 10:15:07 am PDT #4179 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Does anyone here have discussions around water coolers?

We don't have a water cooler, although we do have free coffee and tea. Mostly, our informal discussions take place while waiting in line for the microwave.


Hil R. - Mar 20, 2009 10:15:21 am PDT #4180 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

In Work, Louisa Mae Alcott's semi-autobiographical novel written in the late 1860s, Christie is convinced that the man she loves will reject her if he discovers that she has been *shudder* an actress. (It's online free and less likely to make you want to poke your eyes out.)

In Jo's Boys, also Louisa Mae Alcott and written a little later, Josie wants to be an actress, and her parents consent under the condition that she follows the advice of a "proper lady" actress who has a vacation house near theirs, and her first bit of advice is to finish school first.

In a Victorian literature class I took in college, I did a report on Madge Kendall, an actress in London during that period. I found one great quote from her saying that she doesn't know what might happen in some of those other theatres, but nothing happens backstage at her theatre that wouldn't be appropriate for any proper drawing room.


Polter-Cow - Mar 20, 2009 10:20:28 am PDT #4181 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Mostly, our informal discussions take place while waiting in line for the microwave.

This is my office too. Heh.


Polter-Cow - Mar 20, 2009 11:57:25 am PDT #4182 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

The WBC Comes to Canton.

The Westboro Baptist Church protested Canton High today for their production of The Laramie Project. The students were more than happy to counterprotest. It's a great story worth reading. Gives me hope.


beekaytee - Mar 20, 2009 12:00:24 pm PDT #4183 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

Weirdly enough...not having had an actual job outside my own stuff for 14 years, I did just have a conversation while my hand was on the water cooler in the office in which I am squatting.

Back in the day, I do recall talking about Twin Peaks in the vacinity of the water cooler.


beekaytee - Mar 20, 2009 12:53:01 pm PDT #4184 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

On a totally different note, I have a question for wildlife nurturers.

It would seem that a pair of doves is building a nest in one of my kitchen wiindows.

I have two questons...the screen is skewed, giving them a roughly 2 and a half inch wedge of space...and the screen tends to bang around in the wind. Should I, when they are both gone, remove the screen to give them more room?

Are they smarter than me when it comes to choosing spaces?

Also, should I put food, like bread crumbs out there? Or does ordering in upset the process?

My experience as a penguin wrangler did not prepare me for unexpected nests.


JZ - Mar 20, 2009 1:45:02 pm PDT #4185 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

My only bird knowledge extends to answering this question:

Are they smarter than me when it comes to choosing spaces?

If they're an older couple, then yes; but first-time bird parents frequently build nests in incredibly idiotic places and lose their eggs or their nestlings to the first high wind that comes by (ack, I'm getting distressed just thinking about all the tiny naked little baby birds I've seen over my 40 springs, smashed on various sidewalks because of parental stupidity).

Er, in short, don't assume they have any idea what they're doing.


Laura - Mar 20, 2009 1:54:37 pm PDT #4186 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

The water cooler, microwave, and coffee pot are all in the same spot in the office. We do tend to chat there. We don't have any walls anymore in the office so chat happens every place. When we moved to this space we intended to put up walls. We placed our desks and stuff in the desired spots and never got around to putting the walls up because we all liked being able to ask each other questions without yelling or getting up and walking to another office. There are times when it would be nice, but if we want privacy for a phone call or something we just go outside.


WindSparrow - Mar 20, 2009 5:13:59 pm PDT #4187 of 30000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I think vw has the right to call out when she's feeling uncomfortable- and this has been going on for *days*. It's not like it's just come up.

I have been pretty uncomfortable with descriptions of these books, too - to the extent of having bad dreams inspired by them. I resorted to blocking out swaths of posts when the discussion was revving high - and asking Daniel when it was safe to look again. Kinda like how we watch episodes of House. I was not intending to say anything, but vw is not the only one who is uncomfortable.

The suggestion to carry the Elsie discussion to Literary seems like a good one.

I really haven't had a sense that the discussion was about Christianity per se, but more about the highly dysfunctional relationship between Elsie and her father and about the context of the book

The dysfunction is what was getting to me.


Hil R. - Mar 20, 2009 5:34:41 pm PDT #4188 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I'm really sorry, WindSparrow. If I'd known it was causing nightmares, I would have stopped posting about it. I was mostly reading as a distraction from my shoulder hurting, and I'm really sorry that it was causing other people pain.