I hope all the money hasn't gone to bonuses and that there is some left over for severance.
Yeah, me too. Though it looks like the purchasing bank has taken a HUGE loss, so I'm gonna be surprised...
Dawn: Any luck? Willow: If you define luck as the absence of success--plenty.
'Touched'
Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.
[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.
vw bug - Mar 20, 2009 6:52:04 am PDT #4156 of 30000
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tommyrot - Mar 20, 2009 6:52:48 am PDT #4157 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
but what's the objection to theatre?
A friend of mine is Pentecostal - her church forbade her from going to movies. (This was her pastor's rule - other churches didn't have that rule.)
He said that while some movies are in fact OK for Christians, someone might see you walking out of a movie and assume that you'd been to a bad movie. So to avoid even the appearance of going to a bad movie, you weren't allowed to see movies at all.
Also prohibited - alcohol, dancing and pants (for women). If you were a woman you had to wear your hair long and unstyled.
brenda m - Mar 20, 2009 6:54:54 am PDT #4158 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Damn. Our primary one is in Pittsburgh.
vw bug - Mar 20, 2009 7:02:55 am PDT #4159 of 30000
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He said that while some movies are in fact OK for Christians, someone might see you walking out of a movie and assume that you'd been to a bad movie. So to avoid even the appearance of going to a bad movie, you weren't allowed to see movies at all.
Also prohibited - alcohol, dancing and pants (for women). If you were a woman you had to wear your hair long and unstyled.
This is essentially how life was for me until I was 18.
And I'm going to take this moment to say that I find this continued discussion of this book disturbing and troubling. If I thought that people were honestly trying to understand this sect of Christianity, that would be one thing. But it seems to be under a microscope to discuss how crazy these people are. Quite frankly, if we were doing this to a book on a Jewish girl's life in the 1800's, it would be considered offensive.
Damn. Our primary one is in Pittsburgh.
Oh, bummer. But thank you! I'm hoping it just means he goes back to school sooner, and it's not a traumatic thing. It's still scary, though.
DavidS - Mar 20, 2009 7:05:51 am PDT #4160 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
But it seems to be under a microscope to discuss how crazy these people are.
I think it's understood that the craziness is entirely the author's.
Hil R. - Mar 20, 2009 7:08:49 am PDT #4161 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
Sorry, vw. The only person that I was trying to mock was the author.
Nora Deirdre - Mar 20, 2009 7:10:50 am PDT #4162 of 30000
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)
I think it's understood that the craziness is entirely the author's.
Sure, to you, but you don't have a personal investment in it. I think vw has the right to call out when she's feeling uncomfortable- and this has been going on for *days*. It's not like it's just come up.
Yeah, a lot of it is the author, but a lot of it is the discussion of the lifestyle being portrayed.
Doesn't make participants in the discussion wrong in any way, but vw is just speaking up on something that pings her.
vw bug - Mar 20, 2009 7:20:42 am PDT #4163 of 30000
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Sorry, vw. The only person that I was trying to mock was the author.
It's fine. I don't want to start a thing. It's just that the discussion has been going on and on. I'll step back and get back to the work I'm supposed to be doing.
Trudy Booth - Mar 20, 2009 7:23:23 am PDT #4164 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
It's fine. I don't want to start a thing. It's just that the discussion has been going on and on.
And we're on the second of twenty books!
Hil R. - Mar 20, 2009 7:27:47 am PDT #4165 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
My question about theatre and opera, by the way, was a serious one -- I was trying to understand why there was an objection to theatre as a whole, rather than just some plays being not allowed but other plays being OK and wholesome, since they'd already said that some storybooks and novels were OK, and others weren't, so I'd assumed that the same standard would apply to all sorts of narrative.
And the parts of this book that I've been mostly boggling at, other than the creepy pseudo-incestuous parts (which are way beyond anything of the sort that I've seen in other books from the same period), are mostly the weird constructions of Elsie's Christianity, in particular. Like, there are plenty of things that other Christian characters do, with seemingly no judgment on them from the author, but Elsie insists that, as a Christian, she can't do it. Just about every single other character in this book, including the very devout Christians, have commented on Elsie and her father's relationship being weird, and that her father is much too strict and that Elsie takes obedience to an insane level. What I'm mostly trying to work through is, what on earth is the author's message here? Is the message to be like Elsie, even though all these other characters who we're supposed to like and respect think that she takes the whole obedience thing way too far?