I'm so sorry, but if it makes you feel any better, my fun-time-Buffy party night involved watching a robot throw Spike through a window, so if you want to trade... no wait, I wouldn't give up that memory for anything.

Buffy ,'Get It Done'


Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Shir - Nov 01, 2009 10:05:16 am PST #28958 of 30000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

P-C, what Steph said. With sparkles on it.

(Sorry if my post came in the middle, it took me ages to type it...)


Laura - Nov 01, 2009 10:06:39 am PST #28959 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

It isn't like I don't know where he is, about 4 blocks away. I have not specifically said, "you must come home this instant." The reason he is in trouble was the not talking to me about it before the fact. It's tough. He'll be 18 in January. We had a chat exchange yesterday morning. His phone is in the possession of the school office at the moment.

Part of my internal conflict is that I was already out of the house by about his age, living with my boyfriend (DH#1) shortly before I turned 18. I had dropped out of high school, had my GED, and was in business school. DH was also out of the house before he turned 18. My lifestyle at his age was far wilder. Way the hell wilder.

He isn't hanging with a bad group. I know the kids. The difference is that they are in college and he is in HS. He stayed the last couple nights at his friend's mom's house because he is home for the weekend from FSU. If I had any reason to believe he was up to anything outrageous I would have gone and picked him up.

It is impossible to know what the right thing to do is, but since I feel he is in a safe situation I'm not going maniac on him. Just yanking some privileges when he gets home. That will happen shortly when the friend heads back to FSU. Best guess is after the Dolphins finish kicking ass. I'd bet heavily they are watching the game with a half dozen other teens.

meara! Yes, I know you are heading this way. Tues - Tues. Hmmmm. I have to go to in-laws for Turkey day itself, but pretty free otherwise. Will send e shortly to coordinate a plan.


Beverly - Nov 01, 2009 10:13:51 am PST #28960 of 30000
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Laura, if you or Dad had disappeared off the radar without direct contact for more than 48 hours, I'm pretty sure he'd be worried and upset. Keeping the people who love you informed of your whereabouts and plans isn't wearing a leash or a lo-jack, it's adult behavior. That's nothing less than you're entitled to.


Laura - Nov 01, 2009 10:14:44 am PST #28961 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

And my long post was xposty with Sunil. Dude, you are making progress. Listening to your mother and ending the conversation without yelling or tears is big. Also, we won't let them kidnap you. Apparently I have a different parenting style, but I do value the communication I have with the boys and hope that by working with them they might listen to me about important things, or at least value my opinion.


Laura - Nov 01, 2009 10:19:23 am PST #28962 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Absolutely, Beverly. It is only because I knew where he was and could have called one of the other kids or stopped at the house where he was any time that I wasn't crazed. Still I made it quite clear yesterday that it was completely unacceptable for him to take off that way and that there would be consequences.

Probably a bit late for me to start smacking him up side the head, and I'd have to get a ladder. DH would handle the whole thing differently, but after years of spirited debate he defers to me in this situation.


DavidS - Nov 01, 2009 10:20:42 am PST #28963 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

My lifestyle at his age was far wilder. Way the hell wilder.

::pulls up chair for Laura's lovely stories of sex, drugs and the seventies::

P-C, it weirdly sounds like a cult deprogramming the way they talk about it. Except they're trying to break you from the evil mind control of, uh...autonomy and singlehood.


Cashmere - Nov 01, 2009 10:24:22 am PST #28964 of 30000
Now tagless for your comfort.

Teppy, was that the Blue Monkey Sideshow or another sideshow? I saw BMS in Indiana once and they KICKED ASS. I would totally hire them for a party.

{{{Zmayhem}}} Hec, I am totally with you. I find myself yelling more now than I ever have in my life and that is NOT good. Liv is 10 times more challenging than Owen was at the same age in regards to discipline.

Laura, so you're telling me it doesn't get easier? I was sorta hoping that would happen.


Beverly - Nov 01, 2009 10:25:35 am PST #28965 of 30000
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I am truly impressed, P-C, with the way that conversation went and your ability to deflect escalation. We can pre-emptively kidnap you, probably, to keep you from being shanghaied into marriage. If you want, I mean.


meara - Nov 01, 2009 10:25:57 am PST #28966 of 30000

if you or Dad had disappeared off the radar without direct contact for more than 48 hours, I'm pretty sure he'd be worried and upset. Keeping the people who love you informed of your whereabouts and plans isn't wearing a leash or a lo-jack, it's adult behavior

Beverly is very smart.

Though I guess if I had said to my parents "hey, I'm at Meghan's house" and called them from her house (no cellphones in that day!) I would've been OK. (Except for the whole "skipping class" part of it)


DavidS - Nov 01, 2009 10:26:56 am PST #28967 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I never worry about Laura's kids, no matter their shenanigans and lack of homework. They're extremely bright, they're capable, and they're very independent. Like their parents, they're motivated and ready to go into the world early. When they find what they want to do they'll apply themselves and shit will fall into place.