To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice, with pie.

Anya ,'Sleeper'


Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


erikaj - Oct 01, 2009 8:30:12 am PDT #24886 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

I think everyone could benefit from counseling. For once, no irony or wiseassedness intended.(Mark your calendars!)


Polter-Cow - Oct 01, 2009 8:30:20 am PDT #24887 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

You say your mood returns to baseline after you sleep - what's baseline for you? Positive or negative, and to what degree?

In the middle. If I'm feeling shitty the night before, when I wake up, I feel fine, as if the weight has been lifted. If I'm feeling totally awesome the night before, when I wake up, I feel fine, as if things are back to normal. It's a pretty neutral baseline, probably tending toward negative but that's just because, you know, waking up.

Bipolar can be fast cycling (moods change rapidly over the course of a day) or slow (moods last days or weeks). Manias are frequently followed by a dramatic crash.

I don't think I've really experienced cycling, but I do frequently crash after coming home from a great night out. But it's usually down to that baseline, not down into the wah wah mood. And that has to be normal, right?

Have you ever engaged in or thought about self-harming behavior? Suicide? You don't have to answer me here, if you don't feel comfortable (email me if you like), but these are the kinds of things that are common in serious bipolar and depression.

I have never engaged in it, but I've sometimes thought about it, or, more accurately, thought about thinking about it. Like, in the moment, it seems like something I ought to do, but I wouldn't really do it.

From what you've said, mild depression (if anything), would seem to be what's affecting you.

If I were actually dysthymic, I would be frequently feeling down for no reason, right? I think I generally have a reason.

Thanks for listening, guys. It's something that's always been in the back of my head for years, but I've never really considered the possibility that I could do anything about it. I think it's probably just life, though? I'm not actually keen on medicating myself. Unless something is actually wrong with me. Maybe.

Is the average person aware only intellectually that they are mortal?

I don't know! I'm like you. Sometimes when I'm driving I think about what one quick jerk of the wheel to the right could do, just in an "I could be gone at any moment" kind of way.

I think everyone could benefit from counseling.

I went to one in college once, and it made me uncomfortable, so I never tried it again.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 01, 2009 8:33:38 am PDT #24888 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Steph, when does magic beer time start?

For me, the next time I get over to my friends' in Sudbury. We deliberately laid aside two six packs out of the two cases we bought last winter in order to do a comparison taste test.

Magic beer is apparently available!!! Though I have no idea how widely it's distributed just yet.

Yay! I'll probably be investing in a case of my own again this year.


Steph L. - Oct 01, 2009 8:34:28 am PDT #24889 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I love that I've pimped the wonders of Magic Beer far and wide!


erikaj - Oct 01, 2009 8:36:13 am PDT #24890 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

Cognitive therapy and meditation helped more than drugs, for me, personally.(Although happy people generally think I'm deeply depressed, even so. But they do not understand me anyway.)ETA: Note, not the drugs on "The Wire" that still fascinate me. Like, Paxil and shit. But I guess I'm not alone...they asked Simon which character he most related to and he said Bubbles. I still think about that a lot and wonder what he would consider the blast he's been chasing.


Lee - Oct 01, 2009 8:37:23 am PDT #24891 of 30000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Magic beer is apparently available!!!

WOOT! I shall have to add a trip to Bevmo to the weekend's plans.


DavidS - Oct 01, 2009 8:38:27 am PDT #24892 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Thoughts of mortality are not the same thing as suicidal ideation.

1. "Hey, we're all gonna croak. Better get started on that popsicle stick replica of Hadrian's Wall."

2. "Hey, life stucks. I should snuff it. Should I use the gun or jump off a bridge?"


Polter-Cow - Oct 01, 2009 8:38:39 am PDT #24893 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Cognitive therapy and meditation helped more than drugs, for me, personally.

I've found that some of the relaxation and breathing exercises we learned in a stress relief seminar do work pretty well.


erikaj - Oct 01, 2009 8:43:30 am PDT #24894 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

I've had both, Hec. dag...my bridge-jumping abilities are sadly limited. or not.


smonster - Oct 01, 2009 8:45:36 am PDT #24895 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

I went to one in college once, and it made me uncomfortable, so I never tried it again.

Counselors vary WIDELY in approach and philosophy.

But it's usually down to that baseline, not down into the wah wah mood. And that has to be normal, right?

Yup, sounds pretty normal. If one is depressed, the baseline tends to be noticeably negative. My experience with bipolar sis is that a "normal" baseline is v. unstable.

Re: dysthymia, think Eeyore. Or Marvin the Paranoid Android. Fun fact - my brother has been nicknamed Eeyore on two coasts, and the first time was by his fifth grade teacher.

Anyhoo.

I know not the Magic Beer, but I don't like beer in general so I'm not inclined to seek it out. I rejoice that it exists on behalf of beer lovers everywhere.

Also, environmental PSA of the day. Biodegradeable != compostable, and biodegradeable plastic anything is basically a greenwash. Specifically, "biodegradeable" plastic bottles would likely SEVERELY eff up the recycling stream.

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