Saffron: But we've been wed. Aren't we to become one flesh? Mal: Well, no, uh... We're still two fleshes here, and I think that your flesh ought to sleep somewhere else.

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Gudanov - Sep 22, 2009 11:03:20 am PDT #24050 of 30000
Coding and Sleeping

That's arguing with me." She then said "I disagree.

Maybe she thought if she just automatically gainsayed anything you said it would just be contradiction, not an argument.


Ginger - Sep 22, 2009 11:20:32 am PDT #24051 of 30000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

See, I don't get the arguing with Vortex at all.

Me, neither.

Maybe she thought if she just automatically gainsayed anything you said it would just be contradiction, not an argument.

Maybe she came there for abuse.


smonster - Sep 22, 2009 11:21:13 am PDT #24052 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Aims is me.


Nora Deirdre - Sep 22, 2009 11:23:10 am PDT #24053 of 30000
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I wonder if I should apologise to anyone....

FUCK no.


Steph L. - Sep 22, 2009 11:27:57 am PDT #24054 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

when I say something that you believe is incorrect and you continue to contradict me? That's arguing with me." She then said "I disagree.

Argggg. I hate reading this, because I *so* do this, and I know it makes me an asshole even while I'm doing it, but I have this ridiculously overinflated sense of justice (well, justice for *me*) and that, no, REALLY, I swear to God I'm right and you just need to listen to meeeeeeee and then you'll realize!

I gotta stop doing that.


Nora Deirdre - Sep 22, 2009 11:32:04 am PDT #24055 of 30000
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Argggg. I hate reading this, because I *so* do this,

Yeah, I was just thinking that I do this too. I really hate getting called out on shit that isn't my fault. As an admin, it happens A LOT. It is ego damaging, and sometimes I push back- I can't help it! (And then I get called out for having a bad attitude. Which, you know, I don't push back so much on, because it's true, if that's the criteria.)

I try not to actually push back while in the wrong, though.


Steph L. - Sep 22, 2009 11:36:21 am PDT #24056 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I really hate getting called out on shit that isn't my fault. As an admin, it happens A LOT. It is ego damaging, and sometimes I push back- I can't help it!

Incompetent!Boss, as the name may imply, often says one thing and then days later (sometimes hours) says the opposite. So my co-workers and I are often in the position of having to say to our superior "But you SAID...," which he disagrees with, which puts us in the position of arguing with him.

We have learned, though, and try to get everything in e-mail format now, so at least when we inevitably disagree with him we can pull out an e-mail and say, "Actually, you DID say..."


Daisy Jane - Sep 22, 2009 11:37:06 am PDT #24057 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

My life is generally easier if I don't do much pushback and get on with the fixing. I will take whatever blame so long as my shit gets done.

This is why I have a department on my shit list. It's completely their fault things are late or having to be redone or done at the last minute, but at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter, and I have to do the apologizing/begging to creative and development.


Steph L. - Sep 22, 2009 11:38:04 am PDT #24058 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

(And then I get called out for having a bad attitude. Which, you know, I don't push back so much on, because it's true, if that's the criteria.)

I don't think that disagreeing about something that you're not in the wrong about is a "bad attitude."

The problem, of course, is that even if you prove you're right, if you're a peon, you're still automatically "insubordinate," because you had the gall to disagree with a superior, even though he was wrong.

It's possible I'm a little bitter.


Vortex - Sep 22, 2009 11:40:00 am PDT #24059 of 30000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Oh, Vortex. I've never had a professional employee confused about hierarchy, but the students & interns drive me bonkers with thinking that their opinion matters as much as mine (or the collective department).

har. That's a good way to put it. My friend was once told "I'm the boss. Even when I'm wrong, I'm right."

Argggg. I hate reading this, because I *so* do this,

Yeah, I was just thinking that I do this too. I really hate getting called out on shit that isn't my fault.

Right, but when you do it, you know that you are arguing, even though you can't help it.

I mean, I understand being upset if you believe you are right and are getting yelled at, but she compounded it with "next time, i'll write it down so I can show you." UNFUCKINGACCEPTABLE.