Did she write "Herland"?
Doesn't matter that we took him off that boat, Shepherd, it's the place he's going to live from now on.
Mal ,'Bushwhacked'
Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.
[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.
Daisy Jane - Sep 16, 2009 12:34:06 pm PDT #23429 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
StuntHusband - Sep 16, 2009 12:35:31 pm PDT #23430 of 30000
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark
I did find that bias in Tiptree - except in "Brightness Falls from the Air" which is a CRUSHING novel, about inevitability, and cruelty, and vengeance. The writing is so beautiful that I have to re-read it every so often, but not more than once every couple of years; I find it shattering.
(I'm sure this comes as little surprise to most of the Bitches that the "James Tiptree Award" is handed out every year for SF/F that challenges assumptions about gender)
Strix - Sep 16, 2009 12:35:45 pm PDT #23431 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
I can totally see how some of Tepper's works could be seen as one-note, ita. Some of her books I just have to roll my eyes at, but some of them, I think she has some gallow's humored, funny scenes.
Connie Neil - Sep 16, 2009 12:43:25 pm PDT #23432 of 30000
brillig
"Ensign Rock" shows up in 2 (non-canon) Trek novels from the 80s, as a Starfleet Academy trainee.
It's only Ensign Rock because humans can't pronounce Horta, and he's a son of the original Horta (I personally find the series of books quite fun). And I think only the Romulans call him Ensign Rock. Diane Duane, I think, wrote them, and she has some interesting stuff about Romulans and Vulcans.
re: Sherri Tepper-- Grass, Raising the Stones, and Sideshow are the ones I recommend for her, they're something of a trilogy, and there's a lot of her typical gender/social issues involved, though not as strongly as Gate to Women's Country, which I tend to argue with.
Connie Neil - Sep 16, 2009 12:49:50 pm PDT #23433 of 30000
brillig
poptarts
Naraht! That's his name.
Strix - Sep 16, 2009 12:53:27 pm PDT #23434 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
Hmm, yes, Connie- GtWC is a *tad* on the "men are evil, unless they are SNAG's, OMG, run!"
Also, I get the impression that she thinks liking sex makes you an intellectual moron. Heh. Well, I don't have to agree 100% with an author . Sometimes it 's more fun to mentally argue with them!
Strix - Sep 16, 2009 12:53:28 pm PDT #23435 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
-t - Sep 16, 2009 12:56:42 pm PDT #23436 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
I rather like Tepper, but I tend to read her stuff as thought experiments. I don't know that I buy her conclusions but I'm interested in her premises. Or I was, at least, I haven't felt like reading anything of hers in quite a while.
Strix - Sep 16, 2009 1:00:55 pm PDT #23437 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
I agree, -t.
Connie Neil - Sep 16, 2009 1:04:44 pm PDT #23438 of 30000
brillig
Tepper's women often annoy me because they often are advocating this "striving and questioning lead to pain, why can't we just settle down here and raise babies and corn and not make a fuss?" thing. But in Raising the Stones one of the heros, who's gotten himself tangled up with questions etc., manages to turn that on its head and make you stop and think that he's right to question and challenge the status quo.
I love moments in books when I stop and stare and feel my skin prickle at the absolute rightness of something.