I'm thinking there are extremely few current countries in the world that built on land not previously occupied by someone.
Early: So is it still her room when it's empty? Does the room, the thing, have purpose? Or do we -- what's the word? Simon: I really can't help you. Early: The plan is to take your sister. Get the reward, which is substantial. 'Imbue.' That's the word.
'Objects In Space'
Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.
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javachik - Sep 09, 2009 7:34:22 pm PDT #22477 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.
DavidS - Sep 09, 2009 7:35:29 pm PDT #22478 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I'm thinking there are extremely few current countries in the world that built on land not previously occupied by someone.
This was Spike's argument in Pangs.
Trudy Booth - Sep 09, 2009 7:36:36 pm PDT #22479 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Probably none. People have been screwing each other for so long now.
Hil R. - Sep 09, 2009 7:40:22 pm PDT #22480 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
Mexico losing the war meant that the Mexican government lost the right to govern the land, not the private property owners lost the right to the land that they owned within the territory. And the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was supposed to guarantee that.
Did the US ever actually keep to the terms of ANY treaty involving land out west?
DavidS - Sep 09, 2009 7:42:24 pm PDT #22481 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Did the US ever actually keep to the terms of ANY treaty involving land out west?
I think we did actually pay for the Louisiana Purchase and Alaska.
We paid for California too. Of course, they struck gold two years later, so it was a bargain.
Trudy Booth - Sep 09, 2009 7:43:06 pm PDT #22482 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Why would we do that?
Treaties are to end the war. If it cuts into profits, well, why honor when the war is over anyway?
Hil R. - Sep 09, 2009 8:07:02 pm PDT #22483 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
I'm reading more about Mexican history now. So they declared a Mexican Empire, then basically started recruiting among the noble houses of Europe to find an emperor? And an Austrian guy got the job? Then he and his wife adopted the grandsons of the guy who had briefly been emperor a few decades earlier, the previous time they tried declaring a Mexican Empire. And even though neither of these people was actually emperor for very long, there are still pretenders to the throne, a guy who can say that, if the Mexican Empire is ever restored, he's the emperor. The current pretender is named Maximiliano Gustav Richard Albrecht Agustin von Götzen-Itúrbide, and he was born in Romania and lives in Australia.
(I'm kind of fascinated by people who still keep track of who should be heir to a throne that hasn't existed for generations. When my family was in Italy, we went to a restaurant owned by some Hapsburgs. One of them told us all about the places that he should be prince of.)
StuntHusband - Sep 09, 2009 8:11:19 pm PDT #22484 of 30000
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark
Maximiliano Gustav Richard Albrecht Agustin von Götzen-Itúrbide
What a name! I want that name! Mine is obviously NOT difficult enough to pronounce or spell, judge's statement or no!
Hil R. - Sep 09, 2009 8:13:19 pm PDT #22485 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
Cool. One of those princes adopted by the Austrian emperor and his wife later renounced his claim to the throne, went back to Mexico, criticized the government enough that he got exiled, and then spent the rest of his life as a professor of French and Spanish at Georgetown. (And his mother, who had the rather boring name of Alice Green, was the granddaughter of a US Revolutionary War general.)
Trudy Booth - Sep 09, 2009 8:24:21 pm PDT #22486 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
(I'm kind of fascinated by people who still keep track of who should be heir to a throne that hasn't existed for generations. When my family was in Italy, we went to a restaurant owned by some Hapsburgs. One of them told us all about the places that he should be prince of.)
One of my friends had a professor who expected students to stand when he entered the room because he was the non-landed prince of somethingorother.
I wish I could remember which school.