River: They weren't cows inside. They were waiting to be, but they forgot. Now they see the sky and they remember what they are. Mal: Is it bad that what she said made perfect sense to me?

'Safe'


Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


DavidS - Sep 07, 2009 8:45:32 am PDT #22144 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

That's why she owns it. So she's got very good taste.

What are you going to introduce to her? Hudson Hawk?


StuntHusband - Sep 07, 2009 8:48:12 am PDT #22145 of 30000
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark

What are you going to introduce to her? Hudson Hawk?

"History, tradition, culture... are not concepts! These are trophies I keep in my den as paperweights!"

I am SO Darwin Mayflower.

Edited to say: And, finishing my thought - YES, show her this film!


Polter-Cow - Sep 07, 2009 8:48:49 am PDT #22146 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Sunset Boulevard was FANTASTIC!

It's one of my favorite movies. Although I've only seen it the once. I mean, you've got to love a movie where the main character starts out dead.


sj - Sep 07, 2009 8:49:53 am PDT #22147 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Sean, that sounds like a very good talk. I really hope things work out the way you want them to.


DavidS - Sep 07, 2009 8:54:53 am PDT #22148 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I mean, you've got to love a movie where the main character starts out dead.

The opening as originally scripted had Wm. Holden's character sit up in the morgue and start to tell his story to the other corpses who listen raptly.


Anne W. - Sep 07, 2009 8:56:37 am PDT #22149 of 30000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

The opening as originally scripted had Wm. Holden's character sit up in the morgue and start to tell his story to the other corpses who listen raptly.

I... don't see that as working quite as well as the way they did it in the final version.


Steph L. - Sep 07, 2009 9:24:17 am PDT #22150 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Cashmere - Sep 07, 2009 9:27:26 am PDT #22151 of 30000
Now tagless for your comfort.

Sunset Boulevard was FANTASTIC!

This is absolutely one of my top 10. Date Girl gets high marks for her cinematic taste! If you start reading about the film, it just keeps getting better--the fact that Gloria Swanson actually was a silent film start who managed to make a career in talkies and that film Max plays for Norman and Joe is Queen Kelly--directed by Eric von Stroheim (Max) and staring (Gloria Swanson)! It's all very, very cool.

Someone seriously needs to knit this for me. It's so cute, and yet, ancient and evil!


DavidS - Sep 07, 2009 9:31:46 am PDT #22152 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I... don't see that as working quite as well as the way they did it in the final version.

Well, Wilder wrote it and directed it so he agreed with you.

I only note it because it shows how dark/offbeat it was in his original conception.

There are so many things I love about it. It has both this reverence for old Hollywood and a scathing satire of it at the same time. This is really one of the great mythmakers of Hollywood, so deep into its old lore.

It's a noir, and it's also the definitive Hollywood Gothic. That amazing funeral scene with the monkey and the card game with all the real silent stars, and DeMille. And Swanson fought to make her character more human and tragic - less monstrous.

That scene where Norma goes back to the studio and is treated like visiting royalty was a scene that Wilder wrote after he saw Gloria Swanson actually returning to the studio and seeing her surrounded by veteran techies, swarming around her. Treating her like the star she was. (Swanson had moved away to NYC, and was quite different from the character. Swanson was rather quirky and practical instead of an egomanical diva.)

Did you know she was an amateur inventor? That weird little cigarette holder that she uses in the film was her invention.

I love the insider stuff on low level screenwriters trying to make it. All that stuff with Nancy Olson's character as they're collaborating on the script.


DavidS - Sep 07, 2009 9:34:40 am PDT #22153 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

::high fives fellow Sunset Boulevard fans::