I battle evil. But I don't really win. The bad keeps coming back and getting stronger. Like that kid in the story, the boy that stuck his finger in the duck.

Buffy ,'Showtime'


Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Cashmere - Aug 20, 2009 5:36:11 pm PDT #20273 of 30000
Now tagless for your comfort.

Hil, I have a raw food "uncook" book if you're interested in it.


omnis_audis - Aug 20, 2009 5:38:17 pm PDT #20274 of 30000
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

I'd like to see more uniform/strict licensing and required training, but not elimination.

This!! Very much so. Gun control should be you know how to control the gun, and have a certain level of competency (sp? Sorry, on iPhone). There is rumor of evidence that a reason Hitler didn't invade USA was because so many folks had a gun, that the insurgence factor was too high. Additionally, the reason citizens should be armed, is to help prevent totalitarian regime from taking power. If the only folks who have guns is the government, then they are the only ones with power.

Both of those are NRA theory. Ingrained in me since a very young age. Is it wrong? I don't think so. Is it right? I don't think so.

I only shoot paper.
Me too. Sometimes cans too.


Hil R. - Aug 20, 2009 5:38:18 pm PDT #20275 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Thanks, Cashmere. I'm mostly just playing around with raw recipes until this heat wave goes away and it's cool enough to turn on my oven again. These raw tacos are actually pretty good, though. Might make them again.


sj - Aug 20, 2009 5:40:43 pm PDT #20276 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Deena, how have you been feeling?


Liese S. - Aug 20, 2009 5:43:53 pm PDT #20277 of 30000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I think we have a well-armed militia--it's called the ARMY

Right, but would the current armed forces help the people to defend against an oppressive government? I suspect that it would be likely to be rather the opposite, that our military would be used to exert the oppressive pressure.

This is clearly devil's advocate stuff for me, as I fall on the wacko side of pacifism and don't really believe there is any good reason for a gun aimed at another human. My social justice stuff means that puts me in the middle of a whole whack of contradictions, but oh well.

I mean, I guess it's just as scary for me to think of guns in the hands of people intending to foment revolution as it is in the more common way I see it, which is kids trying to survive and destroying themselves instead. But I see it as constitutionally provided for in the former case, so it's odd for me.

I eat a lot of game, so I've clearly got no issue with the hunting thing, although I did as a kid. And I've also got no issue with it as sport, although personally I'm more interested in archery.


Liese S. - Aug 20, 2009 5:46:49 pm PDT #20278 of 30000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Also, I gotta add that I'm so appreciative that we can have conversations like this one and the one about race the other day. I really like being able to work through the issues to get past the sides' talking points and see how people feel and why. It's really helpful to have such civil discourse, even with issues like this that people have strong feelings about.

I heart Buffistas.


Miracleman - Aug 20, 2009 5:47:24 pm PDT #20279 of 30000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I have an odd take on gun control that usually just befuddles folk.


Liese S. - Aug 20, 2009 5:49:30 pm PDT #20280 of 30000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Befuddle away.


Hil R. - Aug 20, 2009 5:51:27 pm PDT #20281 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I've never shot a gun, or even held one. I kind of want to try it at a shooting range sometime, just because I'm curious, but I don't want to own a gun.

When I was a kid, my sister and I weren't allowed any toy guns, even ones that were obviously fake or sci-fi ray guns or things like that. We had water guns, but those were shaped like elephants, not like guns.


amych - Aug 20, 2009 5:55:35 pm PDT #20282 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Also, I gotta add that I'm so appreciative that we can have conversations like this one and the one about race the other day.

So very, very much this. I've done a hell of a lot of thinking about the whole gun thing, but I also have personal issues* on the subject that make me disengage and run like hell from almost any online conversation on the subject. Y'all are awesome, even where we disagree.

* you have no idea how hard it is to avoid a "trigger" pun at this moment. See? I failed.