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Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


P.M. Marc - Aug 20, 2009 12:19:02 pm PDT #20235 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Nope. I just view guns as intrinsically dangerous tools that I grudgingly accept that police need to use. I don't really think that non-police, non-military folks should have guns.

All guns or just handguns?

Because out here in the West, you still have a LOT of people who hunt for game for food purposes. We used to watch a guy's chickens and get deer meat in exchange. (I have noticed that progressives in the Western US seem to have differing opinions on guns than progressives east of the Rockies.)

I'd like to see more uniform/strict licensing and required training, but not elimination.


§ ita § - Aug 20, 2009 12:20:20 pm PDT #20236 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

she complained at how much it hurt her hand when she stabbed someone

Few knives have a good enough guard to protect your hand from sliding onto the blade after a really strong stab. It's one of the reasons everyone usually ends up getting cut in a knife fight.


Laga - Aug 20, 2009 12:22:27 pm PDT #20237 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

My dad has an uzi. It was a gift from my uncle. it stays in a gun club in Wisconsin (Dad lives out here in California). I doubt Dad has seen it in ten years. I think he only fired it once.

I do think guns are fun. I was thrilled when I got to hold (not fire, unfortunately) a thompson sub-machine gun and I must admit I laughed out loud the first time I felt the firing power of a .44 magnum.

Yes, they are a tool that can kill but so can most any other tool. As an extreme example: you wouldn't lock up your aluminum tent poles but many people have electrocuted themselves by accidentally or purposely touching a tent pole to a power line.


javachik - Aug 20, 2009 12:25:36 pm PDT #20238 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I am very biased about guns in households. When I was 14, my 15-year old cousin Benji(the one who has now served 4 terms in Iraq - once in the Gulf War) was playing around with what he thought was an unloaded rifle. We were in his bedroom and he was bragging about how he'd found the hidden key to the rifle cabinet. He pointed the gun at me and started to laugh, and his laughter yanked the gun's aim from my head to just left of my left ear, and just then he pulled the trigger. The bullet whizzed past my left ear, singeing my hair, and up into the wall and then the hallway ceiling.

His dad thought "boys will be boys" and grounded him for one weekend.


tommyrot - Aug 20, 2009 12:27:03 pm PDT #20239 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I'm amazed at how many gun accident stories start with, "He thought the gun was unloaded."

Can't people learn from the mistakes of others?


javachik - Aug 20, 2009 12:27:07 pm PDT #20240 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Yes, they are a tool that can kill but so can most any other tool. As an extreme example: you wouldn't lock up your aluminum tent poles but many people have electrocuted themselves by accidentally or purposely touching a tent pole to a power line.

But Laga, guns aren't used for shelter the way tent poles are. They are used for killing. That is the reason they're made. Target practice might be fun, but AK-47s are made for killing and nothing else.


Laga - Aug 20, 2009 12:31:58 pm PDT #20241 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I only shoot paper.


Polter-Cow - Aug 20, 2009 12:37:59 pm PDT #20242 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

He pointed the gun at me and started to laugh, and his laughter yanked the gun's aim from my head to just left of my left ear, and just then he pulled the trigger. The bullet whizzed past my left ear, singeing my hair, and up into the wall and then the hallway ceiling.

Good God. I'm glad you're not dead and stuff.


javachik - Aug 20, 2009 12:41:49 pm PDT #20243 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

The thing is, Benj and I were extremely close at the time, and he was pretty upset about it. Well, as upset as any 15-year-old boy can be about almost kiling his cousin.


Dana - Aug 20, 2009 12:43:42 pm PDT #20244 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I'd hope that would be "pretty damn upset".