The guns. Well. Not many recreational sports that don't require running/jumping.

See, I don't view shooting as a recreational sport, although I realize the Olympics and the entire NRA disagree with me.

I don't view shooting as a recreational sport

Why not? Is it because it's not physically involved enough to count as a sport? Do you rank archery as a sport? But that involves a lot more muscle.

I have a screwdriver. It's one that was used in some sort of railroad construction work around 1900, and it's 3 feet long. The handle's some sort of wood and the rest of it, 2.5 feet or so, is a nice, thick length of steel with a 2-inch flat-head screwdriver blade on the end.

I'd have to work rather hard to stab someone in any serious way with this. But if I wapped them upside the head with it, they'd definitely feel it.

Right now I use it to fish underwear from the space between the washer and dryer.

I don't view shooting as a recreational sport

I see it as a recreational sport, but not an athletic sport.

I have a screwdriver. It's one that was used in some sort of railroad construction work around 1900, and it's 3 feet long. The handle's some sort of wood and the rest of it, 2.5 feet or so, is a nice, thick length of steel with a 2-inch flat-head screwdriver blade on the end.

I had this weird dream where I killed someone with a screwdriver like that. I rammed it into the bottom of his chin up into his brain. (It was self-defense.)

Well, I know who's never getting invited over to Calli's place.

I don't view shooting as a recreational sport

Why not? Is it because it's not physically involved enough to count as a sport?

Nope. I just view guns as intrinsically dangerous tools that I grudgingly accept that police need to use. I don't really think that non-police, non-military folks should have guns. t edit And that members of law enforcement and the military should only use guns in the carrying out of their professional/military duties. Obviously this includes training as necessary in the proper use of said weapons.

I know that's an extreme position, and one that my brother the hunter gives me a lot of shit for, but I'm willing to make ordinary citizens pissed off if it means reducing needless fatalities.

No weapons in our house until Leif has moved out.

No weapons except Leif.

I'm willing to make ordinary citizens pissed off if it means reducing needless fatalities.

I'd give up my gun if it guaranteed jackholes didn't get them. IE, people who go into gyms and classrooms and museums and public meets with little dicks and big guns.

IJS, the little bugger would figure out how to defeat any security we could come up with. He can combine creativity and intelligence with terrifying effectiveness.

IJS, this is a level of awareness that not everybody else who would otherwise own weapons shows.