He's a joker, that Calvinistic God. "No, go ahead, run across the freeway. Ignore me giggling. Go for it."

BWAH!

See, this is why I like the Catholic version. "No, go ahead, run across that freeway. Anything happens, you can repent afterward."

On a vegan board that I read, we've periodically considered starting a "Vegans Against PETA" group, because they just make the whole animal rights movement look idiotic. (I think the last round of wanting to start that came after yet another "Look at these naked women! Don't eat meat!" campaign. Because yes, exploiting women in a campaign to stop exploitation of animals is a fabulous idea.) There are plenty of thoughtful non-crazy animal rights groups and activists out there, but PETA is the one that gets in the news with stunts like that.

(Also, after reading an interview with Chynna Phillips, where she said that she had been vegan to stop herself from gaining weight after she stopped smoking, but felt sick, so she started eating meat and smoking again and felt so much "healthier," we started putting together a list of vegan celebrities who can talk about their diets without sounding like idiots. Came up with Alicia Silverstone, Moby, Natalie Portman, Ellen Degeneres, Portia DiRossi, and possibly Lisa Edelstein.)

There are plenty of thoughtful non-crazy animal rights groups and activists out there, but PETA is the one that gets in the news with stunts like that.

It's sad - you could replace "animal rights" and "PETA" in that sentence with almost any cause and fringe activist group and it would be just as true.

It's sad - you could replace "animal rights" and "PETA" in that sentence with almost any cause and fringe activist group and it would be just as true.

Not to mention Christianity.

(In fairness, PETA does also do a lot of the undercover slaughterhouse videos. Some of them have uncovered slaughterhouses breaking either the cruelty or safety laws, generally with things like killing downed cows. Law says that if a cow is too sick to stand on its own, then it's too sick to be part of the food supply, but several PETA videos have shown slaughterhouse workers literally pulling cows to their feet and holding them up standing to count as "able to stand," and then killing them for meat. Which is generally the low-grade meat that goes to the government programs, which means either school lunches or prison food.)

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I've read a number of similar dating ideas on vegan blogs -- usually recent converts who have gone from omnivore to vegan in less than 30 seconds. often they are peta members

he said that, as a Christian, he feels that he's got divine protection.

If my childhood Methodist minister was right, there's a bunch of early church martyrs snickering in heaven right now.

Not to mention Christianity.

Oh yeah - I was mentally including them too. (Focus on the Family, The Catholic League, etc)

I vote we start a movement called SANE PEOPLE FOR RATIONAL COMPROMISE and start standing on streetcorners drawing people into sensible and reasoned debates. Think it'll catch on?

I vote we start a movement called SANE PEOPLE FOR RATIONAL COMPROMISE and start standing on streetcorners drawing people into sensible and reasoned debates. Think it'll catch on?

Will there be people in sexy swimsuits?

SANE PEOPLE FOR RATIONAL COMPROMISE

You can almost acronym that as SPORC.