Early: So is it still her room when it's empty? Does the room, the thing, have purpose? Or do we -- what's the word? Simon: I really can't help you. Early: The plan is to take your sister. Get the reward, which is substantial. 'Imbue.' That's the word.

'Objects In Space'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Mar 05, 2009 2:43:02 pm PST #9303 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

My parents divorced because my dad would get drunk and hit my mom.

I thought it only happened once, when I was 12 (they divorced within the year), but when I was 24 my mom told me it happened often.

My dad, to this day, will say things like, "I don't know why your mother divorced me," or blame it on her wanting to run around with other men. And I've never been able to say, "What about you hitting her? You think that had anything to do with it?" I just don't want to have that conversation.

The most physical against each other was me putting him through the wall in our studio apartment.

...was there a pre-existing hole there? Because -- wow.


Amy - Mar 05, 2009 2:51:40 pm PST #9304 of 30000
Because books.

I'm just stunned at that police report. I had no idea that it was that extreme. That's ugly and scary and infuriating.


Liese S. - Mar 05, 2009 3:04:10 pm PST #9305 of 30000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

...was there a pre-existing hole there? Because -- wow.

Err, no. I mean, for the record it was a cheap apartment, with cheap apartment walls. But still. He was trying to keep me from leaving in a rage, I think, and I swung him around and into the wall. I was pretty mad. Don't have any memory what about. Those first two years were pretty rough.

That was the only time we ever touched each other in anger, though, and it scared us pretty good and it was the last time anything like that ever happened. Plus we had to pay a pretty hefty damage bill when we moved.

It's embarrassing now. And I'm pretty sure most of the people who meet us now never picture us like that. But that's the truth.


meara - Mar 05, 2009 3:10:09 pm PST #9306 of 30000

Yeah, when violence is two-way I'm less...shocked, I guess?...which is more what Liese seems to be describing.

And I can totally see how if you were raised in an abusive environment which people are saying he was, a "you're arguing and get mad and hit someone" seems plausible. And if it had been a "they were arguing and it got a little physical and he hit her once and went "oh crap, I don't wanna be like my upbringing"...maybe I could see it. (Don't mean she would have to forgive him, or that he wouldn't deserve shit for it, but...) But what that police report describes? Oh HELL no.


Theodosia - Mar 05, 2009 3:26:55 pm PST #9307 of 30000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

And then there are otherwise nice people who are only abusive when drunk, for instance. And who tearfully and honestly swear they'll never do it again, and the codependent significant other is honestly ready to believe them. Oh yeah.


tommyrot - Mar 05, 2009 3:28:49 pm PST #9308 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

ION, I'm going to take a stand and state that tatooing a cat is wrong. I hope this case doesn't lead to people getting a Sphynx just so they can give it a "cool" tattoo. Also, the article mentions it's a fad, but no mention of other cases of this, if any.

Scandal of tattoos on cats

Still dazed after being anaesthetised for three hours, a pedigree pet is hauled upright to show off its new tattoo.

The controversial “body enhancement” was carried out on Mickey – a rare Canadian Hairless breed also known as a Sphynx cat.

His female owner was said to be delighted with the Tutankhamun design inked on to his chest at a tattoo parlour.

She said: “I wanted something new and different for the times we live in.”

But horrified animal rights campaigners last night slammed the sick fad in Moscow as barbaric – and fear it could catch on among wealthy pet owners in the West.

An RSPCA spokesman said: “We are totally against using animals for purely cosmetic reasons just on the owner’s whim. Clearly the animal has no say in the matter.

“We do not believe in using pets as fashion accessories. It shows no respect for the animal whatsoever. So far we have only heard about this practice happening overseas – and we hope it doesn’t spread.”


Theodosia - Mar 05, 2009 3:29:51 pm PST #9309 of 30000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I'm truly more concerned about 3 hours of anaesthesia on a small animal than about the tattoo.


tommyrot - Mar 05, 2009 3:31:38 pm PST #9310 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

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tommyrot - Mar 05, 2009 3:32:29 pm PST #9311 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I'm truly more concerned about 3 hours of anaesthesia on a small animal than about the tattoo.

Yeah. Although the animal was no doubt in pain for days....


§ ita § - Mar 05, 2009 3:33:04 pm PST #9312 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think the tattoo's gorgeous, but that in no way makes it a good idea.