ita, you really had to go and confuse me with the underwear vs. undergarments question! I got all internally confused until JenP said her mother used underclothes to mean all of it. I grew up using underwear = underpants, and the all inclusive was underclothes. But, now I don't know what I use currently. I never think about it! Why do you have to make me think so hard?
Don't kill anyone if you don't have to. We're here to make a deal.
Mal ,'Serenity'
Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
SailAweigh - Mar 05, 2009 4:58:49 am PST #9180 of 30000
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
Steph L. - Mar 05, 2009 4:59:54 am PST #9181 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
Note: I don't actually use the term "undergarments," but *if* I did, it would refer to the collective bunch of what you wear under your clothes.
lisah - Mar 05, 2009 5:02:00 am PST #9182 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate
The guy who dropped trash on the subway almost got it, but I restrained...a bit.
I had to stop myself from pulling over this morning around the corner from my house to give the business to some asshole who dropped trash out of his McDonald's bag onto the ground. I'm so freaking sick of fast food trash in my neighborhood!
Toddson - Mar 05, 2009 5:02:15 am PST #9183 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"
In re abstinance-only education and STDs - I remember reading or hearing somewhere that a lot of these programs emphasize that condoms don't work, and so people coming out of them don't use condoms. As a result, higher pregnancy and STD rates. But my memory is vague ....
tommyrot - Mar 05, 2009 5:05:39 am PST #9184 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
I remember reading or hearing somewhere that a lot of these programs emphasize that condoms don't work,
Yeah, that's true. Some of those programs really drill that point home.
I dunno why - maybe this is the same insane troll logic that makes some people want there to be STDs, because they will discourage people from having sex outside of marriage.
Emily - Mar 05, 2009 5:08:51 am PST #9185 of 30000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
Apparently some programs being used in some Texas school districts cite a 30% failure rate for condoms (which of course would STILL be better than not using anything, but is grossly untrue).
amych - Mar 05, 2009 5:15:18 am PST #9186 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
I'm not sure they even want to discourage sex outside of marriage, so much as make sure that the people who do it "get what they deserve".
But it's just possible that I have some blinding rage issues on this front.
Jessica - Mar 05, 2009 5:11:58 am PST #9187 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Amych is me.
Aims - Mar 05, 2009 5:17:43 am PST #9188 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Some of those abstinence only programs are whack as hell. Some of them get even basic genetics wrong. A great report on them as they are used nationwide was done by Rep. Henry Waxman out of California. I used the report for a research paper I did. [link]
Also interesting? Just under a year after the highest amount of federal funding went out to abstinence-only programs, the US saw a rise in the teen pregnancy rate for the first time in like 20 years.
I have anger about this, but my rage has been redirected to those who want to ban Gardasil because it promotes promiscuity.
tommyrot - Mar 05, 2009 5:19:48 am PST #9189 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
I'm not sure they even want to discourage sex outside of marriage, so much as make sure that the people who do it "get what they deserve".
I think someone here theorized they don't really care about reducing teen pregnancy, as pregnant teens (who've been through a religious abstinence program) are likely to get married and produce more offspring for their church. (And yes, a lot of public school abstinence programs are explicitly religious.)