I don't fancy spending the next month trying to get librarian out of the carpet.

Spike ,'Chosen'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Feb 25, 2009 4:48:40 am PST #8213 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I asked my minion to work on something that she spent most of yesterday on and still doesn't have much to show for it. It's definitely the kind of task that takes time to figure out how to do it, but now I feel bad that she's spent all this time, and now I'm going to have to do it myself because we're running out of time! Bah.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 25, 2009 4:50:34 am PST #8214 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Jindal is busy turning down stimulus money for one of the poorest states in the nation

Yeah, but what the media really needs to be broadcasting LOUDLY is what percentage of the money he IS taking vs. claiming loudly to be turning it down, because most of the governors being all self-righteous about not taking the money are only not taking a fraction of it from what I've been reading.

Sorry for the asscaps, but watching the repubs making any claims to the high ground this soon after Shrub's reign makes me want to puke, preferably in said repubs face.


Jessica - Feb 25, 2009 4:55:51 am PST #8215 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

what the media really needs to be broadcasting LOUDLY is what percentage of the money he IS taking vs. claiming loudly to be turning it down

Naturally, the only reason I know about this side of the story is from TDS.


Cashmere - Feb 25, 2009 5:22:45 am PST #8216 of 30000
Now tagless for your comfort.

I just watched some video of Jindal's response and it's pretty cringe-worthy.

Looks like we're supposed to get 6-9 inches of snow tomorrow night. Freezing rain today. This means I really need to get to the grocery TODAY.


Aims - Feb 25, 2009 5:45:36 am PST #8217 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Bree Walker was the name of the woman with the hand deformity. [link]


Gudanov - Feb 25, 2009 5:52:09 am PST #8218 of 30000
Coding and Sleeping

I think this is a pretty good summary of Jindal's response.

"You know, I think Bobby Jindal is a very promising politician, and I oppose the stimulus because I thought it was poorly drafted. But to come up at this moment in history with a stale 'government is the problem,' 'we can't trust the federal government' -- it's just a disaster for the Republican Party. The country is in a panic right now. They may not like the way the Democrats have passed the stimulus bill, but that idea that we're just gonna -- that government is going to have no role, the federal government has no role in this, that -- in a moment when only the federal government is actually big enough to do stuff, to just ignore all that and just say 'government is the problem, corruption, earmarks, wasteful spending,' it's just a form of nihilism. It's just not where the country is, it's not where the future of the country is. There's an intra-Republican debate. Some people say the Republican Party lost its way because they got too moderate. Some people say they got too weird or too conservative. He thinks they got too moderate, and so he's making that case. I think it's insane, and I just think it's a disaster for the party."

[link]

And that's from David Brooks.

Personally, I don't think anyone looks good in these response speeches regardless of party and this one didn't break the trend.


Kathy A - Feb 25, 2009 6:05:39 am PST #8219 of 30000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I thought Rachel Maddow's reaction to Jindal's response was priceless--Olbermann threw it over to her for her analysis, and she just sat there, dumbfounded, saying, "Uh, uh, well, to be blunt, I'm speechless. I cannot believe that he just stood there and used Katrina as an example of why government should stay out of people's lives!!"


tommyrot - Feb 25, 2009 6:16:52 am PST #8220 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Have people been following the controversy over the F-22? It's an incredibly awesome plane that's very expensive and just not needed.

Aerial Combat

The Air Force tries to save a fighter plane that's never seen battle.

It was designed for air superiority in the event of a war in Europe with the Soviet Union, against advanced Soviet fighters that were never built due to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

The nation had already bought 187 of them, at a total cost of $65 billion (nearly $350 million apiece), and that was more than enough.

...

Mark Bowden, the author of Black Hawk Down, has a very interesting article in the March 2009 issue of the Atlantic, making the case for buying more F-22s. It's the most sophisticated argument I've read, but even he evades the main issues. He ignores the F-15's AESA radar. He says nothing about the F-35, a lower-cost stealth fighter about to enter production. (It has problems, too, but if someone thinks more stealth planes are needed, the F-35 has about 75 percent of the F-22's capabilities for about half the price.) Finally, in response to one blogger's critique of his article, Bowden admits that, even in a war against a more sophisticated foe, we would still establish aerial dominance "with the current fleet of F-15s backed by a few F-22s"—187 F-22s are "a few"?—but that "we will likely lose more planes and pilots" while doing so. He adds, "While this is academic for you and I, it is not for the men and women in the cockpits of those planes."

Let's examine that last bit of logic (ignoring for a moment the surprising fact that Bowden doesn't know basic grammar). He's saying that if some country develops a large, sophisticated, well-trained air force; and if we go to war with that country; and if air-to-air combat becomes an integral element of that war; then without more F-22s, we'll probably still attain air supremacy but at a cost of more casualties among pilots.

Each of those three ifs is pretty unlikely; multiply them by one another, and the probabilities are remote in the extreme. With all due respect to those pilots (and they deserve a great deal), is the tiny probability of their deaths, in some hypothetical future air duels, worth the tens of billions of dollars it will cost to buy more F-22s now? And in a world of limited resources, is it worth more to spend the money on that contingency than on any number of tangible needs and desires, military or otherwise?


tommyrot - Feb 25, 2009 6:21:41 am PST #8221 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Heh. From a reader's email to Sullivan:

Obama And Jindal

Talking to a witty, politically tuned-in co-worker this morning about the speech and response last night. His summation:

"That was like watching Will Smith vs. Urkle ... Who do you think the American people are going to listen to?"


tommyrot - Feb 25, 2009 6:26:31 am PST #8222 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

From Nate Silver:

Obama Joint Session (and Jindal Reply) Liveblog

If it sounds like Jindal is targeting his speech to a room full of fourth graders, that's because he is. They might be the next people to actually vote for Republicans again.