It's simple. I slap 'em around a bit, torture 'em, make their lives hell...Sure, the nice guys'll run away,but every now and then you'll find a prince like Spike who gets off on it.

Buffy ,'Get It Done'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kathy A - Feb 24, 2009 10:04:48 am PST #8115 of 30000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

All this talk about dieting summoned the Vengeful Diet Gods--my Girl Scout cookies were just delivered to my desk.

Oh, well, one last big splurge before next week's appointment!


tommyrot - Feb 24, 2009 10:38:49 am PST #8116 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Disturbing headline o' the day:

Tearful Atlanta Cops Express Remorse for Shooting 92-Year-Old Kathryn Johnston, Leaving Her To Bleed to Death in Her Own Home While They Planted Drugs in Her Basement, Then Threatening an Informant So He Would Lie To Cover It All Up

Tesler said when he joined the narcotics unit, he was told to “sit, watch and learn” from superiors who cut corners to meet performance quotas for arrests and warrants. “I was a new part and plugged into a broken system,” Tesler said.

Tesler said when he saw Smith about to plant baggies of marijuana inside Johnston’s home to make it look like a drug house, he shook his head in disapproval. Tesler said he falsified the police report and later lied about the raid because Smith told him to follow the cover-up script. Tesler said he wasn’t about to “rat” on a senior officer.


SailAweigh - Feb 24, 2009 10:48:16 am PST #8117 of 30000
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Okay, I think I'm starting to like Leverage. Nate definitely rocks my world.


Lee - Feb 24, 2009 10:54:44 am PST #8118 of 30000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Nate's actually the least favorite of the characters for me, even though I do think he's very interesting. Something about the father figure who kind of wants to drink himself to death even as he helps people just grates.


§ ita § - Feb 24, 2009 11:03:20 am PST #8119 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think that's kinda spoilery, Perkins, because it states or implies that it persists through the season. I think. Fine line.

Sophie's my least favourite. She's a nag who lacks self-awareness, when she's not being cool. Hardison, Parker, and Eliot don't stop being cool.


Lee - Feb 24, 2009 11:04:26 am PST #8120 of 30000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

You're right ita, and I edited it.

Sorry about that.


brenda m - Feb 24, 2009 11:08:20 am PST #8121 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Sophie's my least favourite. She's

How much of that is because of the Nate/Sophie relationship? Because's that's always seemed to me the weakest part of the set-up, so I wonder if forcing it has negative effects on their characters more generally.


SailAweigh - Feb 24, 2009 11:14:05 am PST #8122 of 30000
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Hmmm. I see what you're saying about Nate, but those are the characters I like. It's one of the reasons I like Mad Men. Everyone is so thoroughly broken. And I agree about Sophie.


Lee - Feb 24, 2009 11:18:17 am PST #8123 of 30000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I think it's mostly that I feel like I've seen Nate before, and Sophie, but I haven't really seen the others, or at least not as often.


§ ita § - Feb 24, 2009 12:01:44 pm PST #8124 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm assuming Sophie is like that, but it's true that the only time the parts of her personality that I don't like come up is when she's nagging Nate because of their relationship. Or maybe she'd nag any of the team members to fix them. She probably would. But it would probably go better, and it just hasn't come up.