Riley: No pulse. Anya: Yup. The space lamb got 'im.

'Never Leave Me'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Dana - Feb 18, 2009 1:34:20 pm PST #6921 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Of my telemarketer smackdown?

Since I'm home all day, I'm here when they call. Often I just ignore them (thank you, caller ID), but recently I've been picking up to get my number taken off the list.

When I answered the phone this time, the recorded message was totally unintelligible. So I pressed 1. I got a woman who asked for the make and model of my car.

I said, "Please put me on your do not call list."

She said, "Why wouldn't you want to protect your car? This is VERY IMPORTANT."

I said, somewhat less politely, "The recorded message doesn't work. Please put me on your do not call list."

Then she hung up on me.

Then I discovered that according to the FCC, "pre-recorded commercial messages" are generally unlawful.

Irritated me + caller ID + the internet = FCC complaint. And I kind of want them to try calling me again.


DavidS - Feb 18, 2009 1:48:39 pm PST #6922 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I can see how these factors could produce the desire for a good grade, but not the sense that one was entitled to it, which is clearly present.

I suspect it's from parenting trends over the last fifteen to twenty years, which have trended towards "Everything you do is awesome and praiseworthy. I validate your specialness. You are special and deserve all good things. You tied your shoes - let's have ice cream!"

Like that. Hence, showing up equals a B. The grade B means good, and trying is good. So if you try you deserve a B.

I think that's the behavioral brain math behind the entitlement creep.


msbelle - Feb 18, 2009 1:51:35 pm PST #6923 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Damn I hate entitlement like that. HATE.


flea - Feb 18, 2009 1:53:14 pm PST #6924 of 30000
information libertarian

Just what I always wanted - Tornado warning in the middle of dinner!

Seems to have passed to our south, but I was genuinely scared for the first time in a while. We camped out in the windowless hallway and finished our dinner.

Now Casper is overjoyed because mr. flea brought home Harry Potter #1 for her. I think she is a little young, but we'll see.


Hil R. - Feb 18, 2009 1:57:30 pm PST #6925 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

At least once a semester, someone in my department will have to deal with a "but I'm a good student!" student. The student who complains about a grade based on "I'm a good student, therefore I should get a good grade." This student does not actually make any arguments about test or quiz or homework scores, just "I'm a good student." Seriously, at least one per semester.


flea - Feb 18, 2009 1:59:28 pm PST #6926 of 30000
information libertarian

I had a student I was trying to help this morning via IM attempt to search for articles using the "search the website" box at the top of the library web page - after I had already directed hir to click the link to actually get into the database.


megan walker - Feb 18, 2009 2:10:49 pm PST #6927 of 30000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I suspect it's from parenting trends over the last fifteen to twenty years, which have trended towards "Everything you do is awesome and praiseworthy. I validate your specialness. You are special and deserve all good things. You tied your shoes - let's have ice cream!"

I'm sure it is. And I don't think it's just parents.

I don't mind the "but I'm a good student" student so much because that argument is fairly easy to shut down since often a good student knows they've done crappy work even if they don't want to admit it.

The "I worked really hard" student is much harder to convince.


shrift - Feb 18, 2009 2:11:47 pm PST #6928 of 30000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Ahahahahaha, DUDE: [link]

ETA: Not work-safe.


flea - Feb 18, 2009 2:14:11 pm PST #6929 of 30000
information libertarian

'I worked really hard' is a real problem, because frankly in many areas of life working hard is going to serve you better than simply being smart. So you don't want to discourage the hard workers (if they truly are hard workers), even if they worked really hard and got it wrong.

On the other hand, the issue should really be dealt with way before college, you know? Like, what did these kids get up to in high school? It seems like a lot of kids in college have never actually been challenged in their work.


Barb - Feb 18, 2009 2:17:17 pm PST #6930 of 30000
“Not dead yet!”

Both are expressed in units of joules. So before when I said that force × distance is work, not energy, I was wrong.

Brain go 'splodey.

Welcome Megmac.

Hate entitlement.

Have been earwormed with "Say a Little Prayer" all day.

Help.