Most people is pretty quiet right about now. Me, I see a stiff -- one I didn't have to kill myself -- I just get, the urge to, you know, do stuff. Like work out, run around, maybe get some trim if there's a willin' woman about... not that I get flush from corpses or anything. I ain't crazy.

Jayne ,'The Message'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kathy A - Jan 30, 2009 7:01:09 am PST #4268 of 30000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

My grandma was one of 12. She was another Irish Catholic farmer's daughter born in 1900, so the fact that 11 of them made it into adulthood was quite a feat (one of her sisters died at age 12).

Apropos of pretty much nothing (well, except "Does that seem right to you?"): I only this year realized that Jubal Early was a real person.

He was the Confederate general in charge of invading Washington DC mid-war. His advance was too late in the day to be effective, though, as it was fought back by reserves who arrived in time to save the day. One of those Union reservists was Elisha Hunt Rhodes, prominently featured in the Ken Burns' documentary, and his diary entry for the day was rather pithy: "Early should have attacked early in the morning. Early was late."


Strega - Jan 30, 2009 7:02:25 am PST #4269 of 30000

some people really want a large family.

People want all kinds of things. When getting what they want will permanently affect the lives of at least 14 other human beings... I'm not sure their personal self-fulfillment should be the deciding factor.

And if it is, maybe my own self-fulfillment requires me to judge them as incredibly selfish.


Trudy Booth - Jan 30, 2009 7:05:34 am PST #4270 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

People want all kinds of things. When getting what they want will permanently affect the lives of at least 14 other human beings... I'm not sure their personal self-fulfillment should be the deciding factor.

In all likelyhood she wasn't TRYING to have octuplets. "People want large families" was in response to "why would you want more when you already have six?".

And while wanting seven children isn't as common as not long ago, its not some sort of insanity.


Trudy Booth - Jan 30, 2009 7:05:56 am PST #4271 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Jesse - Jan 30, 2009 7:09:09 am PST #4272 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

FTR, there is no waxing in my plans.

I think wanting seven children under 7 years old is a little nuts. And I'm looking at Brangelina when I say that, too.


msbelle - Jan 30, 2009 7:14:41 am PST #4273 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

as if there was any question that AJolie was batshit crazy.


Lee - Jan 30, 2009 7:16:33 am PST #4274 of 30000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I'm in the McJudgey Judgeson corner on this one too. Common sense and personal responsibility are not always bad things.


§ ita § - Jan 30, 2009 7:19:08 am PST #4275 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Knowing that I'd never go to any lengths to have just one kid, there's no way I could wrap my brain around anything that would make multiple births likely after already having six. My, oh, my.

My ER doctor yesterday woke me up by petting my hand. Which seemed perfectly reasonable at the time but I'm realising that if any of the other doctors had done it I might have started screaming. I wonder how he figured he could get away with it.

Nadal picks his butt more in the black shorts. But at least it's not as disturbing as Roddick and his junk all the time.


Trudy Booth - Jan 30, 2009 7:21:01 am PST #4276 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm in the McJudgey Judgeson corner on this one too. Common sense and personal responsibility are not always bad things.

Not to pick on Perkins in particular because this seems to be a common sentiment... but this is pretty much what many many many people have to say about gay couples having children, single parent adoptions, etc. I don't get to say "how people build their own families is their own business" unless I mean it all the time.

And, again, she in all likelyhood was not TRYING to have octuplets, not TRYING to have 14 children under seven.


shrift - Jan 30, 2009 7:22:34 am PST #4277 of 30000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I can't e-file my taxes until the state of Illinois sends me a 1099-G.