Jayne: That's a good idea. Good idea. Tell us where the stuff's at so I can shoot you. Mal: Point of interest? Offering to shoot us might not work so well as an incentive as you might imagine.

'Out Of Gas'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


flea - Jan 23, 2009 8:34:39 am PST #3246 of 30000
information libertarian

Median Med school debt in 2005: $120K. If you start at $250K, you can pay that back like whoa, if you don't buy a house and a BMW for 5 years.

I mean, all the youngish doctors I know (classmates from high school and we have a neighbor who is an ER doc) seem to be doing just fine. I am not concerned about their finances.


Trudy Booth - Jan 23, 2009 8:36:46 am PST #3247 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

OH SWEET TREMBLING MOSES PEOPLE, SAVE THINGS TO THE SYSTEM. USE THE DOCUMENT MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE WE HAVE IN PLACE. IT DOES ME NO EARTHLY FUCKING GOOD ON YOUR COMPUTER IF THE PARTNER YOU WROTE IT FOR NEEDS ME TO EDIT THE FUCKER DEAR GOD. NO DO NOT CALL HIM AND ASK HIM TO FORWARD ME WHAT HE JUST MARKED UP AND GAVE ME TO EDIT. HE IS AT LUNCH AND QUITE REASONABLY EXPECTING THIS WHEN HE GETS BACK.


Connie Neil - Jan 23, 2009 8:40:28 am PST #3248 of 30000
brillig

I am not concerned about their finances.

Oh, but the whole reason to marry a doctor is so that you can be rich, not so your husband can take care of sick people.

(Yes, I know I'm assuming all doctors are men, but I'm sure we've all heard the stories about "Marry a doctor!")


Jessica - Jan 23, 2009 8:42:41 am PST #3249 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

One problem is that doctors, to have a reasonable amount of money coming in, book appointments in 15 minute blocks and most patients need much more time than that, which causes delays. Also doctors are not paid for all the time to do paperwork outside those office visits.

Honestly, that doesn't sound too different from the way things are here except that the doctors are billing insurance companies instead of a government agency.

[eta: In private practice, that is. I think most hospitals have internal systems for handling billing and paperwork.]


Jesse - Jan 23, 2009 8:44:22 am PST #3250 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I mean, all the youngish doctors I know (classmates from high school and we have a neighbor who is an ER doc) seem to be doing just fine. I am not concerned about their finances.

Oh, of course! I am in no way concerned about the finances of the average US doctor.


Jesse - Jan 23, 2009 8:47:01 am PST #3251 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Even at the nonprofit network of clinics I used to work at (mostly covered by medicaid and sliding-scale fees), the top few employees by salary are doctors, and the first one without other responsibilities (just listed as "physician" in the 990) made $162K in 2006.


Sue - Jan 23, 2009 8:47:59 am PST #3252 of 30000
hip deep in pie

Honestly, that doesn't sound too different from the way things are here except that the doctors are billing insurance companies instead of a government agency.

US doctors get to bill more.

But I have heard a few news stories about doctors who had moved to the US moving back to Canada, because the medical insurance bureaucracy was impossible to deal with.


Gudanov - Jan 23, 2009 8:57:27 am PST #3253 of 30000
Coding and Sleeping

I would think that there must be some downward pressure on doctor salaries from insurance companies.


Connie Neil - Jan 23, 2009 8:59:45 am PST #3254 of 30000
brillig

US doctors get to bill more.

It's weird, but when I get the statements from the insurance company, the doctor bills twice as much as the insurance company is willing to pay, and I don't make up the difference. So I'm wondering where the extra money comes from. Sad people without insurance?


lisah - Jan 23, 2009 9:01:12 am PST #3255 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

Doctors working at academic institutions make significantly less than doctors in private practice and still have to pay off those same medical school bills. It varies a lot depending on specialty of course.

Man, my brother I love him but WHY can't he plan ahead like a normal person?! He let's me know today that they'll be in town tonight (picking up a friend who's in from freaking Taiwan so they must have know she was coming weeks ago!) and want to have dinner. And they want to have dinner someplace with lobster that is also a good place to bring their one-year old. Jesus! The one-year old is also the only reason I'm even thinking of trying to meet up with them. I'm exhausted and was really really loving the idea of putting on my inside pants and sitting on my sofa tonight!