It's a good thing Donna Noble didn't live in New Orleans.
You know, I just... I woke up, and I looked in the mirror, and I thought, hey, what's with all the sin? I need to change. I'm... I'm dirty. I'm, I'm bad with the... sex and the envy and that, that loud music us kids listen to nowadays.
Buffy ,'Lessons'
Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Polter-Cow - Jul 01, 2009 12:45:22 pm PDT #26914 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Juliebird - Jul 01, 2009 12:46:10 pm PDT #26915 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
The concept of jughandles being safer than an advanced green arrow and cutting down on traffic piling up for a left turn is horse poo.
Most of the jughandles are so badly labled that even knowing where they are roughly, I still end up missing it, turning right too early, and then, as I'm entering a hairpin turn, I'm crossing three lanes of merging traffic all wanting to go left, straight and right from various points of entry and crossing and merging all in the space of ten feet. I was once on a jug handle that spelled "&"
There was a jughandle that I always tried to avoid because it was basically another left turn with only one car length to get in and dodge traffic.
StuntHusband - Jul 01, 2009 12:58:36 pm PDT #26916 of 30000
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark
"Jughandles" - out of context, and being solidly from the Left Coast, this meant nothing to me. Totally mystified.
Suddenly TRAFFIC PATTERNS enters the conversation, and while I think I know more, I'm also more CONFUSED.
Juliebird - Jul 01, 2009 1:01:01 pm PDT #26917 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
Jughandle: [link]
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StuntHusband - Jul 01, 2009 1:07:24 pm PDT #26918 of 30000
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark
Juliebird: Thank you! And...interesting. I think if you did that in Seattle it would cause automotive mayhem similar to Snow (just SAY that word and watch traffic back up for 3 hours; I'm not kidding - happened last winter, one radio weather forecaster mentioned the possibility of snow (that never fell), traffic went straight to perdition)
Jughandles are dogs-and-cats-living-together.
ChiKat - Jul 01, 2009 1:11:56 pm PDT #26919 of 30000
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
Jughandle: [link]
Huh. I did not know what those were called. Other than annoying. There are a few in the western 'burbs here.
Kat - Jul 01, 2009 1:14:05 pm PDT #26920 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
Jughandles in my world are cloverleafs.
I can't remember if I hated Order of Phoenix or Half Blood Prince? Do I want to see it?
Juliebird - Jul 01, 2009 1:15:07 pm PDT #26921 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
Cloverleafs in my world are exit/entrance ramps for a highway. [link]
![[link]](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.infrastructurist.com/wp-content/uploads/cloverleaf.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/05/18/dont-pluck-the-cloverleaf-a-field-guide-to-highway-interchanges-part-1/&usg=__uSV81LaVbiILZ5_bzyUZPszMr0o=&h=350&w=500&sz=189&hl=en&start=3&sig2=g_HjrdcQ8cpKBSKX8qSHTA&um=1&tbnid=UJTC75OmbhxuwM:&tbnh=91&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcloverleaf%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1&ei=H-BLSvT8I-XflQfbnu3VDQ){kind=link}
tommyrot - Jul 01, 2009 1:18:35 pm PDT #26922 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
There are a few in the western 'burbs here.
There's one on Western for the on-ramp to 90/94 (if you're driving South on Western).
It confused me the first time I saw it....
tommyrot - Jul 01, 2009 1:20:21 pm PDT #26923 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
I think the difference between cloverleafs and jughandles is a jughandle forces you to cross the traffic you were just a part of, requiring a light or stop signs?