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'Lies My Parents Told Me'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jun 29, 2009 12:20:17 pm PDT #26554 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Math is kind of an easy subject to be able to to see how these different cultures though about things very differently than we did. There's zero. There's the idea that unit fractions are the only possibility. Negative numbers. Irrational numbers. My personal favorite, infinity. Each one really requires a paradigm shift. It's hard to think about, that they didn't just not use zero, they never conceived of the possibility of something like zero.

Yeah, really interesting.


Sophia Brooks - Jun 29, 2009 12:20:56 pm PDT #26555 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I think that the problem with imaginary and real numbers is that those words mean very different things to the English majors among us. For me if you use the word imaginary, it has the same level of "realness" as my daydreams or "playing pretend"-- it seems that you have to have a belief (or at least a suspension of disbelief) that the "imaginary" are "real".

As if imaginary numbers are Narnia and Santa Claus and real numbers are England and our parents, and while I believe that Narnia and Santa Claus exist, I don't believe that they actually exist in the physical world, just that those ideas have something special about them that describes a human truth. And I feel like, with imaginary numbers being something you can work with to get actual electricity, I am being told that Santa Claus is an actual man who lives on the North Pole. And my brain just sort of explodiates.


Amy - Jun 29, 2009 12:21:39 pm PDT #26556 of 30000
Because books.

I don't remember very well. I think you can use them to introduce a new dimension to a calculation. I believe one example is introducing phase into the math of AC electrical circuits.

For someone who is a very visual learner, this kind of stuff makes me want to cry. Do. Not. Understand.

History of math is way cool, though.


Gudanov - Jun 29, 2009 12:26:17 pm PDT #26557 of 30000
Coding and Sleeping

I think that the problem with imaginary and real numbers is that those words mean very different things to the English majors among us.

Yeah, it's unfortunate naming. You gotta think of neutral names like star-bellied numbers and plain-bellied numbers.


Steph L. - Jun 29, 2009 12:26:29 pm PDT #26558 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Some people, I'm not saying who, are bigoted against numbers that aren't in the real set.

Woot! Down with letter-appropriating imaginary "numbers"!


Barb - Jun 29, 2009 12:27:28 pm PDT #26559 of 30000
“Not dead yet!”

::runs screaming from the math talk::


Gudanov - Jun 29, 2009 12:27:43 pm PDT #26560 of 30000
Coding and Sleeping

I'm a big fan of quantum mechanics, so imaginary numbers don't present much of a problem. The thing I love about quantum mechanics is the ability to perfectly predict experiments and not have a clue what the fuck is actually going on.


Trudy Booth - Jun 29, 2009 12:28:44 pm PDT #26561 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

And it's been well-known for some time that MJ was not the bio father of his first two kids, and probably not of the third, for that matter.

It is? I was wondering, but I didn't think I knew that official.

I think its commonly assumed. In the few pictures of MJ's kids they appear to be very light-skinned -- but a lot of mixed race people are very light skinned. I don't know that he ever had a press release about it.


tommyrot - Jun 29, 2009 12:29:41 pm PDT #26562 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

The thing I love about quantum mechanics is the ability to perfectly predict experiments and not have a clue what the fuck is actually going on.

I hear the biggest haters of quantum mechanics are the cat census takers.


Sophia Brooks - Jun 29, 2009 12:30:58 pm PDT #26563 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

This is way off topic-- but

My city's bus website has this feature called "Next Bus" where you put in the time and your stop, and it tells you the next five buses coming to that stop.

Until last week, when it started giving you the PREVIOUS five buses. The buses you HAVE ALREADY MISSED.

So to get the next bus, I have to change the time incrementally until I get some buses that are after the current time. I just had to do "next bus" for 6:10 in order to see that a bus is coming at 5:44.

I actually emailed them to let them know, but I got no response and it is driving me nuts!

Maybe they are using imaginary numbers?