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Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Jan 20, 2009 9:49:12 am PST #2470 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

ABC is reporting Ted Kennedy collapsed at the lunch.

Oh no!


Trudy Booth - Jan 20, 2009 9:49:17 am PST #2471 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Aw, Teddy!


Polgara - Jan 20, 2009 9:49:59 am PST #2472 of 30000
Karma is a cat, sleeping in my lap cuz it loves me. ~TS

I heard about Robert Byrd having some sort of seizure, but I didn't hear about Kennedy.

They're speculating that Byrd was taken out because he was so upset about Kennedy. Nothing's confirmed yet either way.


Hil R. - Jan 20, 2009 9:52:44 am PST #2473 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

From what Obama's saying, it sounds serious.


Topic!Cindy - Jan 20, 2009 9:53:42 am PST #2474 of 30000
What is even happening?

The thing for me is that an invocation is not a speech. It's not speech and so it is not directed at an audience. Even at a Presidential inauguration, an invocation is not directed toward the President. An invocation is a prayer.

The person giving an invocation is praying. Assuming the person who gives an invocation believes in deity of some sort of another -- s/he's going to be praying to that deity as he believes in him/her, so there's not sense (to me) in watering it down, or hiding it.

I think America's history and Constitution are more aimed at allowing people to speak their beliefs (whether they're theistic or not) in the public square, rather than pretend they don't hold those beliefs when in the public square.

And, again, let me apologize for writing the "j-word". I did not mean to offend, I simply wasn't thinking about how it would sound outside my head.

quester, speaking only for myself, I got the tone you were going for and took not one bit of offense.

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Teddy Kennedy's been taken out of the Luncheon on a stretcher.


Connie Neil - Jan 20, 2009 9:53:53 am PST #2475 of 30000
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God, if Teddy goes today . . . New York with two new senators? Gosh.


Polgara - Jan 20, 2009 9:54:00 am PST #2476 of 30000
Karma is a cat, sleeping in my lap cuz it loves me. ~TS

Obama almost gave me a heart attack when he started with "[Teddy] was...." and then paused. Longest pause ever.


Topic!Cindy - Jan 20, 2009 9:55:11 am PST #2477 of 30000
What is even happening?

God, if Teddy goes today . . . New York with two new senators? Gosh.

Teddy's Massachusetts' senior Senator.


Hil R. - Jan 20, 2009 9:56:21 am PST #2478 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Whoa. The past fifteen minutes or so, I've been hear police and ambulance sirens about every two minutes. I guess they're taking Teddy to GW Hospital?


Jessica - Jan 20, 2009 9:56:27 am PST #2479 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

God, if Teddy goes today . . . New York with two new senators? Gosh.

Ted Kennedy is from Massachusetts.