That's disturbing. You're emotionally scarred and will end up badly.

Anya ,'Bring On The Night'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Jan 20, 2009 8:32:16 am PST #2396 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Pretty sure Warren was looking down because he was praying, and since mic'd didn't need to keep his head up, but could bow humbly as is probably his want when praying.


Liese S. - Jan 20, 2009 8:32:28 am PST #2397 of 30000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Well, Warren's rise to fame was when he wrote a book.

And yeah, there was lots in Lowery's speech that I really liked. I will be interested to see an annotated version.


sj - Jan 20, 2009 8:32:39 am PST #2398 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I am not a fan of Warren and didn't really care about his prayer one way or the other, but I think if one is expecting a Christian minister of any denomination who is asked to say a prayer at in inauguration for a President who also happens to be Christian to not mention Jesus is expecting too much. At the same time, I was very pleased at how inclusionary Obama's speech was.

I also found the term ''J-word'' to be very offensive.


Connie Neil - Jan 20, 2009 8:36:18 am PST #2399 of 30000
brillig

I also found the term ''J-word'' to be very offensive.

Word. Inclusion means letting the Christians in, too.


meara - Jan 20, 2009 8:37:32 am PST #2400 of 30000

OK, the guy who just did the prayer before the luncheon? Had a really nice voice.


tommyrot - Jan 20, 2009 8:37:33 am PST #2401 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Ooops....She Did It Again: Anti-Contraception Nurse Takes Women's Wombs into Her Own Hands

...the story of a New Mexico woman whose IUD was removed by a nurse against the woman's wishes and who is now suing both the nurse and the center in federal court for battery, constitutional violations and negligence.

The patient went to the Presbyterian Health Services Rio Rancho Family Health Center in Rio Rancho, New Mexico, and saw nurse practitioner Sylvia Olona. Her request: Simply to shorten the strings on her IUD for greater comfort.

The result? Nurse Olona took it upon herself to remove the troublesome device. Why? Simple, Nurse Olona told her patient:

"Having the IUD come out was a good thing [because] I personally do not like IUDs. I feel they are a type of abortion. I don't know how you feel about abortion, but I am against them. ...What the IUD does is take the fertilized egg and pushes it out of the uterus."

Hmmmm....funny....I don't think they teach this definition of abortion in medical or nursing school. But in the free-for-all, define-your-own-medical-practice era of reproductive politics of the past 8 years, anything apparently goes. Nurse Olona could instead, with respect for herself and her patient, easily have said "I can't help you with your IUD as I am uncomfortable with this form of contraception, but let me get you someone who can."


msbelle - Jan 20, 2009 8:37:54 am PST #2402 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Dr. Black who just gave the invocation at the luncheon, he is welcome to come read the telephone book to me anytime. just sayin.


sj - Jan 20, 2009 8:38:46 am PST #2403 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Thank you, Connie. That is what I wanted to say much clearer and more to the point than I said it.


Liese S. - Jan 20, 2009 8:39:15 am PST #2404 of 30000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Seriously. Was he also the one doing the "please, take your seats" beforehand? Because I was all, okay, I'll sit down.


Hil R. - Jan 20, 2009 8:39:22 am PST #2405 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I am not a fan of Warren and didn't really care about his prayer one way or the other, but I think if one is expecting a Christian minister of any denomination who is asked to say a prayer at in inauguration for a President who also happens to be Christian to not mention Jesus is expecting too much.

Yeah. When he was asked a few weeks ago whether he's mention Jesus, one of his assistants responded with something like, "He's a Christian and will pray as a Christian."

I don't really know too much about Warren other than his books and the couple of quotes that have been around lately. I wasn't terribly impressed with his invocation -- like some others have said, he just didn't seem all that charismatic.