religious hangups about the word "marriage" will keep him silent about DOMA and Proposition 8-style legislation.

He said more than once during the campaign that he opposed Prop 8.

And I'm of the mind that it's the woman's right to choose all by her damned self.

Me, too.

But at the end of the day, speaking only for myself, I can't fault him for putting it in terms that were more likely to get him elected, nor do I think that choosing to do so was a sneaky way of undermining women's rights or tromping all over the separation of church and state.

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I just don't get all this "unchanged for thousands of years" rhetoric about the meaning of marriage. Who's the genius who came up with this piece of bullshit, and why is everyone hopping on board?

Especially bible-based people! I mean, really.

I can't get into the other stuff.

He said more than once during the campaign that he opposed Prop 8.

Laga said in Bitches that she was robocalled by his side to vote for it.

I had no CLUE Pete Seeger was that old! The picture in the link is from 1944, performing for Eleanor Roosevelt as a "noted folk singer"! I thought he was standard issue 60's era folkie, age-wise. IE, radicalized 20-something heir-of-Woody-Guthrie, not fellow-of-Woody-Guthrie.

He worked with the Smithsonian researchers who were gathering recordings of old-timers singing old-timey music in the late 1930s/early 1940s. I knew his music as a kid, of course, but didn't find out about him as a dissenter/activist until I took a college class on the Hoover-era FBI. One of the articles we read was about how the FBI helped to get the Weavers blacklisteded after they had their top-ten hits in the late '40s/early '50s. Between Lee Hays and Pete Seeger, they had enough Communist Party connections from the 1930s to doom them in the McCarthy era.

If you get a chance, PBS had an American Masters documentary on Pete that covers all this.

I love Pete Seeger, and while he looks great for 89, he does look, well, like an old man. And that makes me sad, because we won't have him for much longer. And I love him!

He said more than once during the campaign that he opposed Prop 8.

Laga said in Bitches that she was robocalled by his side to vote for it.

Laga "Spike's Bitches 43: Who am I kidding? I love to brag." Jan 19, 2009 8:38:30 am PST

Tep got to the link first, but yeah, Laga said the robocall was a reminder to vote NO on 8.

On another note entirely, NYCistas can get free Oren's coffee tomorrow between 10:44 am and 12:44 pm:

All nine Manhattan locations of Oren's Daily Roast will be offering free cups of their special Inauguration blend tomorrow from 10:44 a.m. to 12:44 p.m. The new roast is called "Blend 44: Beans You Can Believe In," and we're told it's inspired by Obama’s Kenyan and Hawaiian (Kona) roots, "while paying homage to his lively years at Harvard Law (Ethiopian Harrar beans) and his full-bodied years at Occidental College in Los Angeles (La Minita, Spanish for “Little Gold Mine”)."

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I though he wanted the repeal of both DADT and DOMA. I think he'll have more luck with the former, but I'll do what I can to support him on repealing both (Not that I'll have much luck in Texas).

The Catholic Church didn't get involved in marriage till the early Middle Ages. Before then, it was more a contract between families, and you could have the local priest bless you on the porch of the church if you wanted. On the porch, not inside. Cause marriages were for kids/heirs, and that meant sex, and churches didn't do sex.