Cordelia: I get it now. You're all spies. Probably all Russian. And you've brainwashed me, and want me to believe we're friends so I'll spill the beans about some nano-technology thingy that you want. Gunn: So I look Russian to you? Cordelia: Black Russian. Angel: That's a drink.

'Hell Bound'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Typo Boy - Jan 16, 2009 7:46:00 pm PST #1695 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Cosby annoys. AITF was funny, but there are still some valid comments to be made about it. At the time a noted comedian said "I have people tell me: 'I've got an uncle just like that'. Man, the only guy who ever had an uncle just like that was Mussolin's nephew." The other point was that for a while saying racist stuff was really really unacceptable. And all in the family crossed a line and said "you can be as racist as you want if you claim you are doing it to fight racism". Also it contributed to the stereotypes that that helped move this country to the right. You know: Racists are well-intentioned salt-of-the-earth working-class types with big hearts. Liberals are hypocritical delusional sanctimonius wimpy elitists. Rush Limbaugh's act is basically to pretend to be Archie Bunker for everyone who missed that "All in the Family" was satire, and that Archie was not intended to be a hero.


Hil R. - Jan 16, 2009 7:54:50 pm PST #1696 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

One reason that I disagree with Cosby's assessment is that, much of the time, Archie did learn something, even if he didn't admit it. One episode that I remember is where they're visiting Edith's niece, and Archie realizes that the niece's roommate is actually her girlfriend. Archie wants to leave right away -- this is wrong and they're sinners and this is not a house he wants to be in. Edith says no, this is her niece, they're staying. They argue about this, and Archie says, "Don't you think that God's up there judging right now?" And Edith responds, "Well of course he is. But he's God. You ain't." And Archie, with some grumbling, agrees to stay.

And that sort of thing happens in a bunch of episodes. Someone points out that Archie's wrong, and although he won't actually say, "I was wrong," he does the right thing, or somehow fixes whatever his previous statements had screwed up.


Typo Boy - Jan 16, 2009 8:05:20 pm PST #1697 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Someone points out that Archie's wrong, and although he won't actually say, "I was wrong," he does the right thing, or somehow fixes whatever his previous statements had screwed up.

Yeah, that is the part about his heart being in the right place. When he says and does bigoted things he doesn't mean to do anything wrong. The classic bully's excuse "I didn't mean nothin." Of course in real life the kind of stuff Archie did is not so easy to fix.


javachik - Jan 16, 2009 8:07:18 pm PST #1698 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Yes, mostly the audience learned how to be from Edith, and how not to be through Archie.


megan walker - Jan 16, 2009 8:12:01 pm PST #1699 of 30000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I HAZ THE SCOLA!!!


javachik - Jan 16, 2009 8:18:10 pm PST #1700 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Damn, if I weren't already in bed under an electric blanket, I'd track you guys down!


megan walker - Jan 16, 2009 8:24:28 pm PST #1701 of 30000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

You know where I live.


Lee - Jan 16, 2009 8:29:23 pm PST #1702 of 30000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

hmmmm.


Consuela - Jan 16, 2009 8:30:19 pm PST #1703 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Yay Scola!


megan walker - Jan 16, 2009 8:31:25 pm PST #1704 of 30000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Connie!

Do we have a plan/place for tomorrow night? Suggestions?