Jayne, your mouth is talking. You might wanna look to that.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Laura - Apr 18, 2009 8:49:29 am PDT #15797 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Jumps on the 'if only we had it to do over again' bandwagon. Also, plaster dust gets in every possible thing, even closed drawers.

So exciting, sara!


Jessica - Apr 18, 2009 8:56:01 am PDT #15798 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Since I was a tragic teen of 15 when I first heard it, I was all about Eponine (sp?), but I have come to understand over the years, that Javert is my true match.

Ha! msbelle is me, except I was in middle school so it would have been more like 12. Which is like 15 but with less practice.


bon bon - Apr 18, 2009 8:58:10 am PDT #15799 of 30000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Her voice was good, and we're conditioned not to expect that from plainness.

OK, I admit I was like up last night fuming about the Susan Boyle thing, which is stupid, I know. But everywhere I turn on the internet (not here!) she's being hailed as some kind of musical genius, when she's just fine. Even if she was Broadway-ready, it's not like Patti LuPone is getting 22 million views (and the YouTube comments that say Boyle is comparable/better make me nuts). Anyway, I don't understand the part of the Boyle madness where it's her unexpected plainness that is so pleasurable. What, we don't like fat singers? Since when? A plain, awkward singer was unbelievably successful coming out of that very show!

We have really short memories if we think that Americans wouldn't get behind a weirdo like Clay Aiken or Taylor Hicks or a great-voiced non-thin singer like Melinda Doolittle or Ruben Studdard or Kelly Clarkson. Even in Britain they're mad about Adele and Beth Ditto!


Jessica - Apr 18, 2009 9:10:27 am PDT #15800 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

and the YouTube comments that say Boyle is comparable/better make me nuts

I find Patti Lupone's voice whiny and annoying, and her acting mediocre at best. I've seen her twice on Broadway and both times she was the worst part of the show. I can't think of a more overrated Broadway star.


Barb - Apr 18, 2009 9:15:57 am PDT #15801 of 30000
“Not dead yet!”

I find Patti Lupone's voice whiny and annoying, and her acting mediocre at best.

This is me, too. Which is why I like Ruthie Henshall as Fantine and Elaine Page as Evita much better.

And I'm now currently watching clips of Hugh Jackman camping it up as Peter Allen. God, but he camps well. Almost as well as Guy Pearce. I love how fearless Aussie actors are.


Hil R. - Apr 18, 2009 9:16:48 am PDT #15802 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I've seen her twice on Broadway and both times she was the worst part of the show.

I'm betting one of these was Sweeney Todd. What was the other?


Amy - Apr 18, 2009 9:18:23 am PDT #15803 of 30000
Because books.

I don't think it was Boyle's weight. I think it was her age, for one -- the teen in the audience rolling her eyes clearly though a woman her age had no business dreaming of being a singer anymore.

I think it's more about expectation -- people might expect a woman who looks like she lives alone with her cat to be sort of delusional about her talent. And yet she opened her mouth and was great.

And yeah, she wasn't perfect. But she was really, really good for an untrained voice in that situation, with a cheering audience, and I honestly don't believe that there are dozens of women in church choirs who sound like that solo. I've been listening to my parents' church choir for years, and there's maybe one woman who could come close to performing like that.


Jessica - Apr 18, 2009 9:18:46 am PDT #15804 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Sweeney Todd and Noises Off! Two of my favorite shows out there, and she just about ruined them. Ptui.


Hil R. - Apr 18, 2009 9:20:52 am PDT #15805 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Well, that production of Sweeney Todd had issues all over the place. The thing with the actors playing their own instruments is an interesting idea, but it really didn't work with that show. A love scene with one person behind a cello and the other behind an upright bass just looks silly. (And it worked even worse when the same director did it with Company.)


Glamcookie - Apr 18, 2009 9:22:33 am PDT #15806 of 30000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Huh, I never thought much of Patti Lupone as I only knew her from that stupid TV show she did, but I thought she was really great in Sweeney Todd. I agree that the play had major issues, but I was pretty blown away by her.