it was an emergency landing
Actually, it was a ditching.
t /pilot pedant
Which they aren't required to practice in the simulators, which just makes it all the more incredible that this pilot and first mate got the plane down in one piece.
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Sparky1 - Jan 16, 2009 4:22:38 am PST #1538 of 30000
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Jesse - Jan 16, 2009 4:31:16 am PST #1539 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Which they aren't required to practice in the simulators, which just makes it all the more incredible that this pilot and first mate got the plane down in one piece.
Cool. Needless to say, I don't know anything about pilot terminology.
Sparky1 - Jan 16, 2009 4:38:10 am PST #1540 of 30000
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I don't know anything about pilot terminology.
And I only have a foot-launch glider experience, so I'm not really qualified, either.
I was, however, sort of horrified to see someone quoted in the NYT just now criticizing the pilot for choosing the Hudson and not trying to make it to a runway (because the quoted one thought he should go for the place where emergency crews/equipment would be available). It almost made me think that anonymous person was jealous.
Cashmere - Jan 16, 2009 4:55:56 am PST #1541 of 30000
Now tagless for your comfort.
What I don't remember is if that conviction was just a higher degree of manslaughter or, murder 2, or if it was Murder 1? Anyone know offhand what it would be in most states?
I'm not a lawyer but doesn't Murder 1 need to prove intent and premeditation?
JZ - Jan 16, 2009 5:03:06 am PST #1542 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
Which they aren't required to practice in the simulators, which just makes it all the more incredible that this pilot and first mate got the plane down in one piece.
NPR profiled the pilot last night and mentioned that in between flights he works as a safety consultant for the airline, and a noted flight safety expert said something to the effect of, "Obviously, you never ever want to have any kind of flight emergency at all, ever, but if it has to happen this is the one pilot you'd want, out of, like, all of them."
Calli - Jan 16, 2009 5:04:24 am PST #1543 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
that's horrifying and sad.
It really is. Chris was such a terrific person, too.
The whole Hudson landing saga's pretty amazing. I'm glad it had a happy ending.
Laura - Jan 16, 2009 5:16:47 am PST #1544 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.
was, however, sort of horrified to see someone quoted in the NYT just now criticizing the pilot for choosing the Hudson and not trying to make it to a runway
I have to believe things would have been much worse if he tried for a runway. I was wondering how many people fought to get their laptops off the plane.
How awful and sad for your friend Chris and his loved ones, Calli.
Tom Scola - Jan 16, 2009 5:17:40 am PST #1545 of 30000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
The NYT reports that the pilot was glider certified: [link]
JZ - Jan 16, 2009 5:24:28 am PST #1546 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
Oh, Calli, that's horrifying. I can't even imagine how you would cope with the grief from something both completely malicious and completely random. And Chris sounds like he was such a very good man. I'm just so sorry.
Fred Pete - Jan 16, 2009 6:06:38 am PST #1547 of 30000
Ann, that's a ferret.
I'm not a lawyer but doesn't Murder 1 need to prove intent and premeditation?
It's been almost 25 years (that long? how?) since I took Criminal Law, but my memory is
Murder 1 = premeditation
Murder 2 = recklessness, depraved indifference to life (e.g., shaking a baby)
Manslaughter = negligence