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'The Message'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Calli - Apr 09, 2009 9:29:55 am PDT #14588 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Also, there is no evidence that pirates ever fought ninjas....

Blasphemer!


Sue - Apr 09, 2009 9:35:49 am PDT #14589 of 30000
hip deep in pie

I think everyone underestimates how much fictional pirate probably reek.

I find myself unbearably cranky today. But I can't escape myself!


tommyrot - Apr 09, 2009 9:36:49 am PDT #14590 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I think everyone underestimates how much fictional pirate probably reek.

Except for those times when their booty included bath bombs.


tommyrot - Apr 09, 2009 9:39:33 am PDT #14591 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

More blasphemy, from PZ: The zombies of Boston

Where I always get stuck in any scientific examination of the entirely imaginary phenomenon of zombies, however, is the biochemistry and physiology. They just can't work. They're using meat to generate motion, but the properties of meat that can cause contraction/relaxation are dependent on a biochemistry that requires fuel and oxygen. Dead meat doesn't do work! You just have to surrender to the premise and go with the story, because there's no way it can be rationalized.

Bah. He's a biologist. What would he know about... biology... of, um, zombies.


Atropa - Apr 09, 2009 9:40:13 am PDT #14592 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

So do women generally wear top hats to funerals? Or is the ad telling me I'm married to Jilli?

Pete will be very surprised.

Hey hivemind! Does anyone know where I could find Victorian-era newspaper advertisements online?


Gudanov - Apr 09, 2009 9:42:12 am PDT #14593 of 30000
Coding and Sleeping

Bah. He's a biologist. What would he know about... biology... of, um, zombies.

Biology is the study of living things, so he's totally unqualified to talk about the undead. You need a necrologist for that.


Jessica - Apr 09, 2009 9:43:08 am PDT #14594 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

So apparently there was a whale off the coast of Brooklyn this morning! No pictures yet. Boo.


tommyrot - Apr 09, 2009 9:49:08 am PDT #14595 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

PZ linked to this, which I didn't include: The neuropsychology of zombies

George Romero, the man behind "Night of the Living Dead," may not be a neuroscientist, but he and the zombie-auteurs who followed him have an uncanny understanding of the brain works, according to Schlozman. The first part is fairly intuitive. Zombies are humans whose own brains have regressed to the level of a crocodile's, the filters between primal urges and action entirely erased. (See flesh, eat flesh.) In contrast, the protagonists in zombie films, the survivors, retain the brain functions that tamp down primal reactions before passing them on to the higher cortical regions. They think before they act -- at first.

And that's the crux of one of Schlozman's arguments: The story changes as the situation grows grimmer. Here, the professor draws on "mirror neuron" theory, which holds that humans are hard-wired to reflect the psychological states of the people around them. (Show a test subject a short film of a face displaying disgust, or pleasure, and regions of the brain associated with those feelings activate in the subject.)

Unable to relate to the hordes of undead, the survivors in zombie films enter a spiral of despair, feeding off the panic and hopelessness of the uninfected people around them. At the bottom of the spiral comes a crucial psychological moment, Schlozman tells Brainiac, one that you'll find in most zombie flicks:

The protagonists rush out of whatever symbolic structure they happen to be walled up in (churches, malls, etc) and rather than letting the Zombies simply devour them, they try to kill as many Zombies as they can even though they know it's useless! They fully expect to die.


Sue - Apr 09, 2009 9:52:58 am PDT #14596 of 30000
hip deep in pie

There are badly scanned ones here, Jilli

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Sue - Apr 09, 2009 9:58:01 am PDT #14597 of 30000
hip deep in pie

The British Library is scanning newspapers, but it looks like you have to be onsite or at a British educational institution to get access.