Tact is just not saying true stuff. I'll pass.

Cordelia ,'Dirty Girls'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Strix - Mar 22, 2009 4:58:35 pm PDT #11815 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Oh, yikes. I'm trying to think of a family with a weirder triangle of dynsfunction.


Aims - Mar 22, 2009 5:14:39 pm PDT #11816 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Not weirder, but just as dysfunctional were the Hemingways.


DavidS - Mar 22, 2009 5:30:33 pm PDT #11817 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Damn. Nicholas Hughes, Sylvia Plath’s son commits suicide

Fuck! Poor Ted Hughes.

(Not only did Sylvia commit suicide, but his lover afterwards committed suicide and killed their child with her.)


Kat - Mar 22, 2009 5:33:00 pm PDT #11818 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Ted Hughes is already dead, David. Died in 1998, I think. Right after Birthday Letters came out.


DavidS - Mar 22, 2009 5:34:08 pm PDT #11819 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Ted Hughes is already dead, David. Died in 1998, I think. Right after Birthday Letters came out.

Sheesh. Thank goodness?

Still, what a sad legacy.


Kat - Mar 22, 2009 5:39:12 pm PDT #11820 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Absolutely. Poor Frieda, is what I was thinking.


Strix - Mar 22, 2009 5:45:10 pm PDT #11821 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Hemingways were, what, Ernest and Muriel? Or MArgeaux?

Yeah, I was thinking about the lover and baby too. Whenever I teach Plath, my students are always like WTFF? That is messed UP.


msbelle - Mar 22, 2009 5:48:32 pm PDT #11822 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Never read Plath and know virtually nothing of her - odd hole in the knowledge.


Strix - Mar 22, 2009 5:53:47 pm PDT #11823 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

msbelle, basically Plath was an amazing female poet during the 50's and 60's who married Ted Hughes, a male poet. Two kids, and she was hugesly depressed and suicidal before and during her marriage. Some postulate she was schizophrenic. Anyhoo, she killed herself by putting her head in a gas oven right as her work was starting to generate notice. Ted Hughes 2nd wife, with whom he was having an affair during his marriage with Plath, killed herself and her young child -- I think the same way as Plath.

Plath's work was very influential in the feminst movement, and her story is really pretty tragic.


Strix - Mar 22, 2009 5:55:35 pm PDT #11824 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

God, this is crass, but I need to read a biography of her. I've just read little bios -- I wonder if there's a really good one?