This must be what going mad feels like.

Simon ,'Jaynestown'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kat - Mar 17, 2009 8:04:52 am PDT #11085 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Jesse, re: Chinese/Irish perhaps enough to justify this shirt? But I doubt it. My kids, btw, have these shirts.


Trudy Booth - Mar 17, 2009 8:05:11 am PDT #11086 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

A google of "irish chinese boston marriage" gave me this [link]


Jesse - Mar 17, 2009 8:06:29 am PDT #11087 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

There was a PBS program on the history of the Chinese in America and they talked about just such a demographic bubble in Boston. The couples tended to take the Irish name.

Oh, that's interesting. These fictional people didn't do that. The point we're getting through the book is that many of the Irish were living in squalor, and the Chinese men who got these Irish wives were the business owners who could provide a nice life for their families. Also, the wives were not the prettiest girls on the block, so had bad choices of husbands within their own community.


Dana - Mar 17, 2009 8:07:07 am PDT #11088 of 30000
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

So, I'm reading a mystery book that takes places in Olden Tymes New York, and includes several families where the fathers are Chinese and the mothers are Irish -- from the time when Chinese women were not allowed to immigrate

Oh, I totally know what book you're reading, though I can't remember the author's name, and all the books start with "Mystery on..." which is not very specific.

But anyway. Have you read the rest of the series? What do you think of them?


Jesse - Mar 17, 2009 8:09:03 am PDT #11089 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, it's the Gaslight series. I think I've read one other and found them engaging enough. And it does feel like you're getting a real sense of people's lives back then.

Jesse, re: Chinese/Irish perhaps enough to justify this shirt? But I doubt it. My kids, btw, have these shirts.

Heh. My coworker was commenting this morning how people here aren't wearing green, and I said, I guess we're not Irish... She was like, Well, I'm not, for sure! She's Japanese. I should show her that shirt.


Dana - Mar 17, 2009 8:09:42 am PDT #11090 of 30000
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

Victoria Thompson. That's her name.


Jesse - Mar 17, 2009 8:09:47 am PDT #11091 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh, it's actually "Murder in..." or on, and the author is Victoria Thompson.


tommyrot - Mar 17, 2009 8:11:55 am PDT #11092 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Putting the poll together was pretty easy.

I thought of another poll topic: kerfuffles!

Like, "cilantro, yes or no?" or "serial comma, yes or no?"

What else?


Toddson - Mar 17, 2009 8:13:40 am PDT #11093 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Olives, yes or no.


Kat - Mar 17, 2009 8:14:52 am PDT #11094 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

It doesn't have to be olives yes or no because the answer is clearly NO.

Bacon? Swiss Cheese?