My opinion? No one would deny the mass marketing of youth culture and the resegregation of popular music that happened post Woodstock. But to claim Woodstock was the cause, or even a major cause, is reductionism at its worst. There were an awful lot of other things going on at the same time.
Jayne: We was just about to spring into action, Captain. Complicated escape and rescue op. Wash: I was going to watch. It was very exciting.
'Shindig'
Buffista Music 4: Needs More Cowbell!
There's a lady plays her fav'rite records/On the jukebox ev'ry day/All day long she plays the same old songs/And she believes the things that they say/She sings along with all the saddest songs/And she believes the stories are real/She lets the music dictate the way that she feels.
Jon B. - Aug 14, 2009 7:27:34 pm PDT #1457 of 6436
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Typo Boy - Aug 14, 2009 8:24:30 pm PDT #1458 of 6436
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Thanks Jon. I thought it seemed like overkill, but musical history is kind of a deaf spot for me, so thought I'd seek opinions from people who know something about the subject.
Trudy Booth - Aug 14, 2009 8:40:55 pm PDT #1459 of 6436
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
It's the cyclical nature of things, don't you think?
Something avant-garde is amazing and becomes well-loved. Then someone makes a profit. Then you get some poor-quality successors in pursuit of that profit... but none of that makes what was amazing not amazing.
People making money off of good art aren't "selling out," they're just getting to quit their day jobs. (That's such a peeve of mine!)
Can't remember the author or the precise quote, but when asked if the movie would ruin his book he said the book is on the shelf right there -- nothing can ruin it. I love that quote and wish I could remember it.
Frankenbuddha - Aug 14, 2009 8:48:49 pm PDT #1460 of 6436
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Can't remember the author or the precise quote, but when asked if the movie would ruin his book he said the book is on the shelf right there -- nothing can ruin it. I love that quote and wish I could remember it.
Stephen King has quoted that quote, more than once, but I'm damned if I can remember who originally said it (he gave the name, I'm just spacing).
Typo Boy - Aug 14, 2009 8:51:28 pm PDT #1461 of 6436
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
James M. Cain was one of the people who said it, but he was not the first. I forget who he stole it from.
Typo Boy - Aug 14, 2009 8:58:21 pm PDT #1462 of 6436
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Oh and Miscellanous. You were talking upthread on criminal songs and so on. I think Michael Jackson singing "Pretty Young Thing" is a really creepy example. Also in near misses, Bob Dylan was nearly arrested for being homeless. [link]
Actually, when the person who called the police described Dylan as an "eccentric-looking old man", the caller was not wrong. But it says something that if the eccentric looking old man had NOT turned out to be Bob Dylan, and had really been homeless, this would have been a criminal offense - "being too far from skid row while poor" perhaps. Someone should write a folk song about that.
Shir - Aug 15, 2009 12:59:27 am PDT #1463 of 6436
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".
Soulsavers, the new album: [link]
evil jimi - Aug 15, 2009 5:29:14 am PDT #1464 of 6436
Lurching from one disaster to the next.
That Rolling Stones one was great, Jon but did you check out the Kiss one? Oh lordy. [link]
Jon B. - Aug 15, 2009 9:20:31 pm PDT #1465 of 6436
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Not a good week. Jim Dickenson R.I.P.
He produced tons of bands from Screamin' Jay Hawkins to Big Star to the Replacements to Scruffy the Cat to Mudhoney. He also played keyboards on records by Aretha Franklin, the Rolling Stones and others.
Hayden - Aug 16, 2009 7:12:35 am PDT #1466 of 6436
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
I just read that this morning. Not just a great producer, but the greatest producer. RIP.